Did anyone else watch the programme on C4 at 10pm last night?

thorsoak

DanE2010 wrote: »

And fyi Sex is an animalistic activity....its as natural as eating and breathing, about time some people wouldnt get so uptight about how other people choose to do it...

kittiej wrote: »

Yes but animals aren't fussy whom they fornicate with and in what circumstances, this is what sets us apart from the animal world.

By the same token then it would also be perfectly acceptable to kill others, engage in fights or steal food - all which animals will do without a second thought.

Animals do not copulate at any time other than when a female is in oestreus - and the sole intent is to procreate.

This does not appear to be the case with the the people who indulge in this type of activity.

Lotus-eater wrote: »

This the case with 99%+ of human sex, I don't see what this type of activity has to do with it.

My response was to the two above points!

Lotus-eater

kittiej wrote: »

^ This is possibly true irony.

To which post do you refer?

kittiej wrote: »

I just love it when men try to tell women about being liberated and free to do what they want *rolls eyes*

I just love it when a woman can do what she wants and still moans about it.

Anyway, what's that possibly got to do with dogging?

Lotus-eater

thorsoak wrote: »

My response was to the two above points!

Fair enough! I always think pointing out that humans are like animals, is very unfair on the animals anyway

kittiej

I was replying to Irony's post.

And the second was in response to Dan

"I just love it when a woman can do what she wants and still moans about it."

Are you still talking about s3x or is that in general? Confused.com

thorsoak

!!!!!!? Ugh - yes
Erotic? Eugh! definitely not!
Sleazy Most definitely!

kittiej

Hmm, not classy that's for sure

FatVonD

BitterAndTwisted wrote: »

Eh, what consenting adults get up to in private is their own business but doing such filthy things in public view is everyone's by default, and I believe that it is indeed an offence, but just not regularly enforced. And more's the pity, frankly.

I was thinking about this the other night, I suppose it's just the heterosexual version of what (some) gay men have done for years on Hampstead Heath and the like and been prosecuted for yet I've never heard of one dogger being prosecuted.

j.e.j.

kittiej wrote: »

j.e.j. - I'd rather not Goggle it ta, but yes to the !!!!!! bit. This is not a female gratification thing I don't think personally. It reminds me of the spunkfest they used to show on Eurotrash.

Can't say I blame you. Curiosity got the better of me and I didn't want to use up my internet download allowance by watching the whole programme on 4-on-demand so I just google-imaged it. I kind of wish I hadn't..

Lotus-eater wrote: »

How can dogging be pornography?

It seems to be people displaying themselves having sex (often with multiple people) in order to tittilate people watching them. Doesn't sound that different to !!!!!! to me, whether or not it involves cameras.

Tropez

j.e.j. wrote: »

It seems to be people displaying themselves having sex (often with multiple people) in order to tittilate people watching them. Doesn't sound that different to !!!!!! to me, whether or not it involves cameras.

Pedantic perhaps but what you describe is actually voyeurism, not pornography. That doesn't mean that pornography cannot be produced during dogging, nor that pornography is not in some ways voyeuristic itself, but it does not follow that if pornography is voyeurism then voyeurism in turn must be pornography.

In fact, definitions of pornography refer specifically to the depiction of sexual acts or stimulus, not to the acts or stimulus itself. Watching somebody engaging in dogging is not a depiction of the act, it is the act. Filming somebody engaging in dogging, however, would produce a depiction of the act.

DanE2010

kittiej wrote: »

You seem to be confusing sexual liberation for women and dogging where one instance has women who respect themselves but get what they want and the other instance doesn't.

This type of behaviour is what one would expect to find in a broken society since there doesn't seem to be a mental cut-out - just as you would find with animals, and I would not put dogging into the same pigeon hole as swinging actually.

As a member of society it does affect me because we are all supposed to be equal, and if that includes dogging as being an acceptable thing to do then that means I must be inadvertently caught up in it.

No id say sexual liberation for women is that it is their body, their choice and they can do what they want with it, with whoever they choose. Dogging is just like swinging but outside, I dont think all women let whoever have a go, the women in the program obviously had issues and thats why I pointed out the docu makers picked these particular people. What about the women who just enjoy outdoor fun with their partners and enjoy people watching? Are mentally impaired or deprived? what about those who dont join in but just go along to watch?

As for your last paragraph I dont understand what your getting at. How has dogging impacted on your life? What has equality got to do with it? People can do what they want as long as no one is getting hurt and they are playing safe, you do not find it acceptable, that is your choice fair enough, but obviously some people do and that is their choice, I fail to see how it impacts on how you choose to live your life.

kittiej wrote: »

Yes but animals aren't fussy whom they fornicate with and in what circumstances, this is what sets us apart from the animal world.

By the same token then it would also be perfectly acceptable to kill others, engage in fights or steal food - all which animals will do without a second thought.

Are you saying doggers will just sleep with anyone? Id imagine there are some that do, just like the rest of the population, you get people who are not fussy about who they sleep with, but most people are, and I imagine most people sleep with people because they want to, not just to have sex, you cant say all doggers will just sleep with anyone, id imagine no still means no in the dogging scene.

thorsoak wrote: »

Animals do not copulate at any time other than when a female is in oestreus - and the sole intent is to procreate.

This does not appear to be the case with the the people who indulge in this type of activity.

Actually some do, Dolphins are one such animal as well as monkeys