Please sign This petition Ian Duncan Smith to live on £53 a week.

nannytone_2

Pollycat wrote: »

So if someone doesn't want to give up a property, then they actively look for a lodger or accept the reduction in benefits because they are living in a property with spare room - and continue to actively look for a lodger.

i am looking for a lodger. even though my daughter has said that she wont allow my grandson to visit if i have a stranger here.
but house shares are a comparable amount to what simeione would need to pay to cover their bills here.

there is no work, so we arent talking about someone wanting monday to friday accomodation.
no young person would want to live with a 49 year old woman... they will house share with friends.
no one in my position will give up their security to live in someone ekses spare room.

who do you suggest inhabits my spare room?

Hysnbrg

Dunroamin wrote: »

Oh well, head above the parapet time!

For essentials, I would expect to spend about £15 on food, £10 on utilities, £5 on cleaning stuff (for me and the house), £2 pre payment prescription card, £3 TV licence and £5 on fares for interviews. That would leave £13 over to allocate on the basis of need. I should say that this is based on sharing a house or flat because, as I said earlier, having a place of your own isn't financially viable when you're under 25 and unemployed.

(Considering people who work long hours manage to spend time budgeting, I'm pretty sure those who are unemployed can find the time to do so - you don't job hunt for 40 hours a week.)

Bravo!!! I like.

But I wouldn't agree £15 is enough to get your Recommended Daily Allowance- I could be wrong, (im saying £20). Need to keep our Jobseekers healthy.
Bus pass is a must (£15?) best investment for finding a job and if a job is found our Jobseeker needs to be able to get there everyday. Our Jobseeker needs to remain clean and smart, I would say £8 cleaning allowance including haircuts. £10 a week to stay happy and feel secure. Sad times I say.

I left out TV license, phone bills, heating and electric because it sounds like the Torys expect you to go without them.

Dunroamin

nannytone wrote: »

£10 on uktilities?
so gas, electric, water and phone for £10?

Multiply by 2 or 3 for the other people sharing the property. I wasn't including a phone.

Pollycat

nannytone wrote: »

i am looking for a lodger. even though my daughter has said that she wont allow my grandson to visit if i have a stranger here.
but house shares are a comparable amount to what simeione would need to pay to cover their bills here.

Can you enlarge on this - I don't know what area you live in or what facilities you have in your house.

How much would a house share cost? And what would a lodger get for that? Room? Shared bathroom - between how many? Shared Kitchen - between how many?

What would you charge for a lodger for your spare room? And what would you offer (seriously, not being flippant)?

nannytone wrote: »

no one in my position will give up their security to live in someone ekses spare room.

Then (if applicable) benefits are cut. I'm not saying I agree with it - but the Govt believe it's one way to reduce the benefit bill.

nannytone wrote: »

who do you suggest inhabits my spare room?

I have no idea - I don't know you or where you live.
I didn't realise we were talking about you specifically.

Dunroamin

nannytone wrote: »

uf xiyeaw tiy werent always a pensioner. but i also dont think you realise how hard things are right now for people that have no alternative to claiming benefit.

my utilities cos no more for you than they do for me.
fuel costs are the same
food prices are the same.
and your income could well be at a standstill.
my we are lsong income, and have no alternative

I fully realise that things are hard for some people claiming benefits but all this "live on £53 a week" is a smokescreen as it's only under 25s who receive this with over 25s receiving 50% more.

Everybody's spending on food and utilities will be different because of their different incomes and because of where they live so I don't understand how you can say that they're the same for everybody.

Dunroamin

Pollycat wrote: »

Can you enlarge on this - I don't know what area you live in or what facilities you have in your house.

How much would a house share cost? And what would a lodger get for that? Room? Shared bathroom - between how many? Shared Kitchen - between how many?

What would you charge for a lodger for your spare room? And what would you offer (seriously, not being flippant)?



Then (if applicable) benefits are cut. I'm not saying I agree with it - but the Govt believe it's one way to reduce the benefit bill.




I have no idea - I don't know you or where you live.
I didn't realise we were talking about you specifically.

We usually are.....

Pollycat

Dunroamin wrote: »

I fully realise that things are hard for some people claiming benefits but all this "live on £53 a week" is a smokescreen as it's only under 25s who receive this with over 25s receiving 50% more.

Everybody's spending on food and utilities will be different because of their different incomes and because of where they live so I don't understand how you can say that they're the same for everybody.

And different because of what they eat and how/where they shop and whether they have double glazing/ loft insulation/are at home all day or out at work and what utility deal they have.

Yes, different - not the same.

nannytone_2

Dunroamin wrote: »

Multiply by 2 or 3 for the other people sharing the property. I wasn't including a phone.

a phone is a necessitie for ,osyt disabled people. and nowaydays its a 24 hour culture.
an employer wouldnt go to the bother of sending a letter. they want to contact the person immediately.
i am 49 and yes i have a 2 bed.
but if i had the one bed, my itulutues still cost the same as yours.
my property would cos the same to heat even if a dozern people lived with me.

you really dont appreciate how hard these cuts are hitting singletone.
i know the thread is about living on £%£ a week.
but a single person in a 1 bed propertu on £71 a week is struggling!

the mental health implications are enormous. people living under such high degrees of stress can only cope for so long.
will it take people dying to make others sit up and take notice and realise that people are being pushed beyond breaking point?

trygetback

Dunroamin wrote: »

I fully realise that things are hard for some people claiming benefits but all this "live on £53 a week" is a smokescreen as it's only under 25s who receive this with over 25s receiving 50% more.

over 25 gets £71.70 this April (increase from £71)

£53 +1.5%=£79.50

when you are so poor and desperate, £7.80 do make a big difference to people's life.

I know that as I had been there before, to survive, I didn't turn on the heating during the whole year (even heavy snow outside) to keep cost as low as possible (but still have to pay the daily standard rate, I just check with my gas company, daily rate is now nearly 50p so not turn on heating still cost me a lot)

Also I walked everywhere no matter the weather.

results:Sometimes try to squeeze £1 to buy plastic for foot blaster was a struggle... so I was always depress and lots of other health issues as suffering from the house damp with mould. I am still suffering today. I am physical 10 years older than my age (my looks too) due to all the above.

I could barely could put food on the table. The hardest bits are : all the utility bills ate up the 'income', just have the little bits left for my food and a little bit of essentials.

I bought the cheapest food I could...

walk round the supermarket and quietly wait for the staffs put on the special price labels. A lot of time, I waste hours in there because there is ' a cat and mouse game' with those supermarket staffs, when they see 'us' - lots of people in my same situation' waiting near the 'nearly out of date' sales area. The staffs stopped and disappeared. So I ended up walking circle again and again. Hope and more hoping.

about the smokescreen you mentioned, I am sorry I do not agree.

people just want to show how desperate they are. I think you look the wrong way from this issue.

anyway there is voice better then no voice no matter it's merit or not.
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mazza111

It was care leavers or those chucked out the house by their parents when they no longer get money for them I was thinking of. They are often presented as homeless and get awarded 2 bedroom flats in this area. Remember we have 2 bedroom properties in abundance

£10/week for utilities? Gas, electricity, water? My lass was at least £20/week in her old flat. But we did have 2 extremely cold winters (-17C) and it wasn't the best insulated of flats. And that was just for Gas and Electricity, not counting her phone bills or water bill.

Can you believe there are no cafes in this town with wifi? You have no go into the next town which costs around £3/day in bus fares :rotfl: Then the price of a cuppa, £2 (ish), think it might be cheaper to have your own connection


Trygetback. You must have went to a different school from me