Please sign This petition Ian Duncan Smith to live on £53 a week.

Pollycat

MarkDawson wrote: »

Signed! see how he feels having to sit home living on that.

I hope you have lots of patience - because I don't see it happening in the near future, if at all.

And even if it does (which I doubt very much), he'll be very comfortable sitting in his home living on the £53 per week.

And that is why I think this petition is a load of tosh - because it won't prove anything worth a damn.

skintmacflint

djdandew wrote: »

Bare in mind you won't get any help vetting people so if you where concerned about your own safety should you take a complete stranger into your home doing this then you would have to pay for your own CRB check ect.

Other than asking the potential lodger to pay for his own check if you felt it was so necessary , can't understand the logic in why you'd expect someone else or any government funding to pay it on your behalf?

seven-day-weekend

nannytone wrote: »

i am looking for a lodger. even though my daughter has said that she wont allow my grandson to visit if i have a stranger here.
but house shares are a comparable amount to what simeione would need to pay to cover their bills here.

there is no work, so we arent talking about someone wanting monday to friday accomodation.
no young person would want to live with a 49 year old woman... they will house share with friends.
no one in my position will give up their security to live in someone ekses spare room.

who do you suggest inhabits my spare room?

A person who is looking to downsize from either public or private sector.

A student, we had students when we were your age, four in fact, one after the other.

A relative who wants to move out of their home.

Someone whose marriage has broken up.

And I think your daughter is being pretty melodramatic if she won't bring your grandson to see you, does she never go anywhere in case they meet a 'stranger'?

seven-day-weekend

mysterywoman10 wrote: »

With the £14 off though even over 25 if in a 2 bed you are back to £57.

You could be in your late 50's just made redundant, paid into the system all your life

I find it really sad that people are so bitter that they feel this is right, truly nasty.

No money to pay for house contents insurance, any small debts they may have nothing.

Hey let's just let them rot and if they end up homeless why should I care, I'm alright Jack.

Shame on those who think like that.

It's not a matter of thinking it is 'right', it is trying to deal with things as they are and find a solution.

seven-day-weekend

Dunroamin wrote: »

Thanks for correcting my maths; you're right, the difference is important.

I've done my share of shadowing the reducing stff round the supermarket - I was fortunate that I enjoyed it.

We still do it, there is nothing wrong with having the reduced foods. My husband got loads of sandwiches for 19p each from Morrisons the other day.

seven-day-weekend

Dunroamin wrote: »

Re the utilities. I did make it clear that I was talking about a half or third share of utilities in a flat/house share.

I've said several times that unemployed (people with disabilities are in a different situation) people under 25 just can't afford to live independently on their own in 2 bed flats; allocating them this accommodation really isn't doing them any favours. They'd be far better off sharing in the private sector which would also give them the flexibility to move for work, rather than pinning them down in areas of high unemployment, scared to move because of losing their "security".

Absolutely agree, even for care leavers.

seven-day-weekend

oohes wrote: »

Agreed! Benefits shouldn't be comfortable. If people can live comfortably on benefits, what would be the incentive to get a job????
You're not going to die if you cut back on your standard of living for a while. Yes that may mean that you have to go without heating for a while, house share, live on rice and pasta, or get rid of your car. It won't kill you.

We've done all of that in the past. Some people on here think those of us who are suggesting a lodger etc have never had to struggle. That's the whole point, we HAVE struggled and have found ways to deal with it, some of which we are suggesting here and being slated for daring to suggest something that may mean people have to change their lifestyle a little.

(We had an excellent little book called '101 things to do with lentils', and used it too! )

Pollycat

seven-day-weekend wrote: »

A person who is looking to downsize from either public or private sector.

A student, we had students when we were your age, four in fact, one after the other.

A relative who wants to move out of their home.

Someone whose marriage has broken up.

And I think your daughter is being pretty melodramatic if she won't bring your grandson to see you, does she never go anywhere in case they meet a 'stranger'?

I think, from her posts, that Nannytone is determined not to see any possibilities regarding potential lodgers.

Dunroamin

mazza111 wrote: »

No, social workers help them fill out the forms to get their properties, they are then allocated by the allocations officers. Why was it ever unsuitable? I know of 2 kids here who have come out of care and into 2 bedroom properties because that's what we have in abundance. Would it be better to put them on the streets until a 1 bedroom becomes available? One now has 2 girls and works full time, and is happily married. The other is still on her own and suffering badly from depression. Which will probably now get worse now she has to find 14% of her rent. OK it's not a fortune to us who know how to work our money better, but this lass has had very little guidance from her so called parents.




Sigh, the sarcasm rises again... I don't think anyone has ever said that. Shared accommodation is fine most of the time. Especially with people who are going to take responsibility.

From my experience of working in homeless units, shared accommodation for homeless people didn't work out too well.....

We're not discussing homeless people, we're discussing care leavers. Even if we were, if there's a possibility of being eventually allocated a whole (oversized) flat, there's not really a great incentive to make a go of things in a houseshare, is there?

Social workers could just as well help young people in this situation to find shared accommodation and to emphasise the flexibility (and cheapness) that are the benefits of living like this. Particularly as you seem to thing that young people in care take notice of what their social workers recommend.

Dunroamin

seven-day-weekend wrote: »

We still do it, there is nothing wrong with having the reduced foods. My husband got loads of sandwiches for 19p each from Morrisons the other day.

So do I - I got lots of half price duck yesterday!