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Please sign This petition Ian Duncan Smith to live on £53 a week.

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  • nannytone_2
    nannytone_2 Posts: 13,002 Forumite
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    you think there are enough lodgers to go round everyone that is affected?
    no he wasnt forced... but when he moved in last summer, he probably wasnt aware of the changes ( though the council who allocated him the property would have been!)
    the fact that he spent his childhood in care already means he hasnt had the best of starts. never mind though. it isnt you or yours that are being put in this position
  • nannytone_2
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    but sunroamin posted on another thread yesterday about someone wanting advice on becoming a friends loder.
    she pointed out that there was a good chance that the griend was likely to have to prove that they werent a couple.

    how many hoops ( and how much stress) do you think people should have to cope with?
  • Dunroamin
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    nannytone wrote: »
    you think there are enough lodgers to go round everyone that is affected?
    no he wasnt forced... but when he moved in last summer, he probably wasnt aware of the changes ( though the council who allocated him the property would have been!)
    the fact that he spent his childhood in care already means he hasnt had the best of starts. never mind though. it isnt you or yours that are being put in this position

    Well, as a foster/adoptive parent I have had a child in a very similar situation who was placed in a hostel when he left our home at 17. Had he been offered a 2 bed flat I would have done my best to persuade him not to take it because it would be obvious to anyone with any sense that you can't run a flat of that size by yourself, at 18, when unemployed!
  • Dunroamin
    Dunroamin Posts: 16,908 Forumite
    nannytone wrote: »
    but sunroamin posted on another thread yesterday about someone wanting advice on becoming a friends loder.
    she pointed out that there was a good chance that the griend was likely to have to prove that they werent a couple.

    how many hoops ( and how much stress) do you think people should have to cope with?

    I said that it was a possibility but why should sorting out that possibility be all that stressful for any normal person? People share accommodation with others all the time without these issues giving them a nervous breakdown.
  • seven-day-weekend
    seven-day-weekend Posts: 36,755 Forumite
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    edited 4 April 2013 at 4:49PM
    nannytone wrote: »
    you think there are enough lodgers to go round everyone that is affected?
    no he wasnt forced... but when he moved in last summer, he probably wasnt aware of the changes ( though the council who allocated him the property would have been!)
    the fact that he spent his childhood in care already means he hasnt had the best of starts. never mind though. it isnt you or yours that are being put in this position


    Sorry, me and mine HAVE been in this position, inasmuch as we have lost the major wage-earners's salary due to illness, and my son has been unemployed.

    When my husband had to leave his job, due to a severe mental breakdown, we had Incapacity Benefit, Child Benefit for one child and my tiny wage as a lolli-pop lady to live on. We had a mortgage to pay and full Council Tax, all the expenses that other people have and no tax credits in those days. We claimed no means-tested Benefits.

    I got a market stall to sell my husband's artwork. We got a lodger for the spare room. We paid our mortgage and Council Tax first and had our gas and electric meters made into prepaid ones so that we could not run up a bill - if we had no money to feed the meter we did without heat and cooking and had sandwiches (glad to say this only happened a couple of times). We bought clothes from jumble sales .

    Hey guess what, we managed. We had to. As plenty of other people would do if they put their minds to it and didn't just go belly-up at the first sign of any hardship. There are very few people who could not manage if they just thought about it a bit.

    So yes, I have been in this position and so have my loved ones.
    (AKA HRH_MUngo)
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  • seven-day-weekend
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    Dunroamin wrote: »
    I said that it was a possibility but why should sorting out that possibility be all that stressful for any normal person? People share accommodation with others all the time without these issues giving them a nervous breakdown.

    My son had to show he was not in a relationship with his housemate when he claimed JSA. He just filled in a few forms.
    (AKA HRH_MUngo)
    Member #10 of £2 savers club
    Imagine someone holding forth on biology whose only knowledge of the subject is the Book of British Birds, and you have a rough idea of what it feels like to read Richard Dawkins on theology: Terry Eagleton
  • nannytone_2
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    because the suspend your benefit while they investeggate!
  • Hysnbrg
    Hysnbrg Posts: 7 Forumite
    I would really like to know how anyone can live on £53 per week? Its not a rhetorical question, please can some smart-!!!! provide a breakdown of how its meant to be spent?

    I get £90 a week because I'm a full-time carer (thats 24/7 not a measly 36hours) and therefore cannot work, Ive been getting that for about 15years and I struggle every week. I don't need a bus pass because I live where I work.

    So how can a Jobseeker live on half that!... after deducting the bus pass the Jobcentre expects you to buy?

    Please can someone give me a breakdown, whether or not you agree with it. I say it impossible.
  • Hysnbrg
    Hysnbrg Posts: 7 Forumite
    nannytone wrote: »
    because the suspend your benefit while they investeggate!

    And no crisis loans anymore to bridge the gap while they do :mad:
  • seven-day-weekend
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    edited 4 April 2013 at 5:14PM
    nannytone wrote: »
    because the suspend your benefit while they investeggate!

    My son's Benefit was not suspended.
    (AKA HRH_MUngo)
    Member #10 of £2 savers club
    Imagine someone holding forth on biology whose only knowledge of the subject is the Book of British Birds, and you have a rough idea of what it feels like to read Richard Dawkins on theology: Terry Eagleton
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