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Please sign This petition Ian Duncan Smith to live on £53 a week.

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  • Dunroamin
    Dunroamin Posts: 16,908 Forumite
    guilds wrote: »
    Try telling Geldof that;)

    Does he get involved in party politics?
  • Dunroamin
    Dunroamin Posts: 16,908 Forumite
    Dunroamin wrote: »

    Government policies are reactive ,maybe they should be in front of the curve instead of always being behind it.

    If they invested/incentivised the private sector to expand the skills set of the workforce with regards to new technologies etc we would lead rather than follow the rest of the world.It makes sense because you then have a skilled workforce in employment paying taxes. We don't even invest in training when there are jobs unfilled, we encourage increased immigration, you only need to look in the NHS where they travel the globe looking for nurses etc.Successive Governments want their cake and eat it.They want the tax receipts but don't want the expense of training people.

    They haven't done that for many years; there's a high unemployment with UK trained nurses.
  • FTW
    FTW Posts: 8,682 Forumite
    Crellow4 wrote: »
    This is simply ridiculous. If you want his lifestyle - work!

    Maybe he should start doing the same.
  • mazza111
    mazza111 Posts: 6,327 Forumite
    So is it possible that he lived on the breadline before he met his wife? Your post indicated you didn't believe that he had lived on the breadline, didn't it.

    I agree with you, though, I also don't see why he would live on £53 a week (the figure was the one given in the press and on the petition that he should be made to live on that sum to show he can). He has a job.

    A BBC reporter asked him if he could live on £53 a week. IDS said that if he had to he would do.

    Actually probably not as he came out of the services. Which would indicate he had a little money to back him up for the couple of weeks he was unemployed (1981), he married his wife in 82, so I would assume he knew her then and if it was a good relationship, she probably even supported him then. So no, I don't believe he relied solely on JSA or equivalent. If you wish to believe his hype, carry on, but I won't.
    4 Stones and 0 pounds or 25.4kg lighter :j
  • FTW
    FTW Posts: 8,682 Forumite
    Do you have evidence that he didn't?

    He opened his mouth.
  • leveller2911
    leveller2911 Posts: 8,061 Forumite
    Dunroamin wrote: »





    They haven't done that for many years; there's a high unemployment with UK
    trained nurses.


    I wouldn't say 2007-8 was "many years ago" but I get your point.

    AFAIK we still recruit doctors from abroard.
  • clemmatis
    clemmatis Posts: 3,168 Forumite
    edited 3 April 2013 at 9:34PM
    So is it possible that he lived on the breadline before he met his wife? Your post indicated you didn't believe that he had lived on the breadline, didn't it.

    I agree with you, though, I also don't see why he would live on £53 a week (the figure was the one given in the press and on the petition that he should be made to live on that sum to show he can). He has a job.

    A BBC reporter asked him if he could live on £53 a week. IDS said that if he had to he would do.

    He was unemployed, not for long, after he left the Scots Guards. He claimed unemployment benefit then. He married shortly after that. Later, he was made redundant and was again unemployed for a while.

    I doubt he was on the breadline.

    (sorry mazza!)
  • mazza111
    mazza111 Posts: 6,327 Forumite
    Don't be sorry hon, you probably dug into it a bit deeper than me. I see the man and turn tv off or turn the page of the news paper because he makes me cringe so much :)

    I just doubt he was on the breadline as he stated to the press :)
    4 Stones and 0 pounds or 25.4kg lighter :j
  • ILW
    ILW Posts: 18,333 Forumite
    Oh really? I'd happily try self employment if I had any profitable skills, or any ideas for a business, or the finances to start something up. But I have none of those. Any bright ideas for me, seeing as you seem to know so much?
    Can only say how I got started.
    I came to an arrangement with a local burglar alarm company where they would pay me a fixed amount for sales leads (people that were prepared to see one of their reps) and a bit extra for any that turned into sales.

    I just knocked on doors all day long.

    Not much fun, but it paid the bills and after about a year or so I had a couple of canvassers working for me and managed to sell the company.

    As I said, virtually anybody could do it.
  • mazza111
    mazza111 Posts: 6,327 Forumite
    ILW wrote: »
    Can only say how I got started.
    I came to an arrangement with a local burglar alarm company where they would pay me a fixed amount for sales leads (people that were prepared to see one of their reps) and a bit extra for any that turned into sales.

    I just knocked on doors all day long.

    Not much fun, but it paid the bills and after about a year or so I had a couple of canvassers working for me and managed to sell the company.

    As I said, virtually anybody could do it.

    During any period of unemployment, that's what my brother did. Or double glazing. He even went as far as fitting the alarms when he was desperate.


    I even went and helped him a few times.
    4 Stones and 0 pounds or 25.4kg lighter :j
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