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Please sign This petition Ian Duncan Smith to live on £53 a week.
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mysterywoman10 wrote: »There under 25 single no kids and can't find a job? It's £57 actually
Or over 25 and having to pay the bedroom tax which would also leave them with £57.
My son lived on it for over two years. It was not easy, but he could do it.
He had to budget hard for everything including bus fares. His social life involved doing things that cost nothing. Not nice (and he never ever wants to be in that position again), but it is do-able. Certainly if they have no bills to pay.(AKA HRH_MUngo)
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There is no need for a petition, just don't vote Conservative in the next general election. Unfortunately I am suffering and I didn't vote Conservative. I work full time and haven't had a pay rise in 3 years and my husband has 2 jobs.
People are too quick to complain but did they vote in the last election?Surely people saw what happened in the Thatcher years and who gained and who didn't . YOU have the Government you DESERVE.
And the alternative is.....?(AKA HRH_MUngo)
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seven-day-weekend wrote: »My son lived on it for over two years. It was not easy, but he could do it.
He had to budget hard for everything including bus fares. His social life involved doing things that cost nothing. Not nice (and he never ever wants to be in that position again), but it is do-able. Certainly if they have no bills to pay.
He had no bills to pay? That's not the case for many who've had no option but to leave the family home though.
Singleton in 2 bedroom flat will now have, gas, electricity, water rates, council tax, bedroom tax/reduction, food, clothing, I'll add internet connection too, because those on JSA are now expected to use the internet for job searching. Having everything to pay the same as the rest of us but with a lot less to do it on
OK they could use local library for internet connection, but many of these are closing too, ours is due to close within the next year. Many won't have a library locally. If they had no bills to pay I would think it would be a lot easier. Not taking anything away from your son, because I think it would still be hard, just easier than those who have bills to pay too.
This is going to hit the under 25s the hardest imo. And I'm not talking about those who have just left mum's home because they didn't get along, I'm talking of those kids who genuinely have no where else to turn to.4 Stones and 0 pounds or 25.4kg lighter :j0 -
He had no bills to pay? That's not the case for many who've had no option but to leave the family home though.
Singleton in 2 bedroom flat will now have, gas, electricity, water rates, council tax, bedroom tax/reduction, food, clothing, I'll add internet connection too, because those on JSA are now expected to use the internet for job searching. Having everything to pay the same as the rest of us but with a lot less to do it on OK they could use local library for internet connection, but many of these are closing too, ours is due to close within the next year. Many won't have a library locally. If they had no bills to pay I would think it would be a lot easier. Not taking anything away from your son, because I think it would still be hard, just easier than those who have bills to pay too.
This is going to hit the under 25s the hardest imo. And I'm not talking about those who have just left mum's home because they didn't get along, I'm talking of those kids who genuinely have no where else to turn to.
He was living in my house, (we were in Spain), shared with others, so he did have a share of the bills to pay, admittedly not as much as if he lived on his own. But how many single people under 25 have a place to themselves, let alone a two-bed place? And if they have, they can always get a room in a shared place to keep costs down, if they can't manage
Internet can be got a places like shopping malls for the price of a coffee.(AKA HRH_MUngo)
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seven-day-weekend wrote: »He was living in my house, (we were in Spain), shared with others, so he did have a share of the bills to pay, admittedly not as much as if he lived on his own. But how many single people under 25 have a place to themselves, let alone a two-bed place? And if they have, they can always get a room in a shared place to keep costs down, if they can't manage
Internet can be got a places like shopping malls for the price of a coffee.
the last PMQ#s before the easter break highlighted this.
an 18 year old care ;eaver ( so no family home to live in) had finished his A levels with excellant grades. the local council housed him in the only available property. a 2 bed flat.
he has a housing benefit reduction and council tax benefit reduction. after bills he has £11 a week to live on.
it doesnt matter that there are thousands of people in his position. the fact that he is being forced to live like that is |WRONG.
people keep saying ... it has to be done and that it isnt about individuals.
but it is individuals that are suffering. and any society is made of individuals!0 -
the last PMQ#s before the easter break highlighted this.
an 18 year old care ;eaver ( so no family home to live in) had finished his A levels with excellant grades. the local council housed him in the only available property. a 2 bed flat.
he has a housing benefit reduction and council tax benefit reduction. after bills he has £11 a week to live on.
it doesnt matter that there are thousands of people in his position. the fact that he is being forced to live like that is |WRONG.
people keep saying ... it has to be done and that it isnt about individuals.
but it is individuals that are suffering. and any society is made of individuals!
In the absence of getting a job (which is by far the best option), why can't he have a lodger? He doesn't have to live in glorious splendour in a two-bedroomed place! Then he would have someone to share all the expenses with.
My son now has a two-bedroomed flat, (mortgaged), he says if he ever lost his job he would get a lodger for the spare room.
Makes sense to me, in the case you describe.(AKA HRH_MUngo)
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Imagine someone holding forth on biology whose only knowledge of the subject is the Book of British Birds, and you have a rough idea of what it feels like to read Richard Dawkins on theology: Terry Eagleton0 -
the last PMQ#s before the easter break highlighted this.
an 18 year old care ;eaver ( so no family home to live in) had finished his A levels with excellant grades. the local council housed him in the only available property. a 2 bed flat.
he has a housing benefit reduction and council tax benefit reduction. after bills he has £11 a week to live on.
it doesnt matter that there are thousands of people in his position. the fact that he is being forced to live like that is |WRONG.
people keep saying ... it has to be done and that it isnt about individuals.
but it is individuals that are suffering. and any society is made of individuals!
Nobody forces anybody to live in a 2 bed flat that they can't afford to run!
The person in question could perfectly well have moved into a flat/house share where he could have afforded to pay his share of the bills, just as 7DW's son did. It sounds to me that the situation you describe was a major error on the part of Social Services, putting a young person in a situation which was unviable financially and possibly limited his employment options.0 -
I haven't read all of the posts because it is just a rewind of many threads on here and I wasn't going to comment but...........
Nannytone has used the word 'forced to live' like this.
No one has forced anybody. It can only be 'forced' if there are no alternatives.
The alternatives are not always what the person wants to do but we all have to make choices to fit in with our lives.
There are many working people who have to make choices about their lives. It is this idea that only the unemployed should be able to have a life that shields them from having to make difficult choices. Why should that be?
Yes, we as individuals do make up a society but I do not see why any section of society should be protected more than they are now. Our benefit system is extremely generous and if you want to use it you must also be prepared to make the same difficult choices that people who don't use it have to make.0 -
Nobody forces anybody to live in a 2 bed flat that they can't afford to run!
The person in question could perfectly well have moved into a flat/house share where he could have afforded to pay his share of the bills, just as 7DW's son did. It sounds to me that the situation you describe was a major error on the part of Social Services, putting a young person in a situation which was unviable financially and possibly limited his employment options.
Agree absolutely.(AKA HRH_MUngo)
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