DVLA tax disc renewal offline for maintenance. I'm not taxed as of 17 minutes ago!!

jaybeetoo

Aretnap wrote: »

That depends on whether the failure was justified or not. MOT stations aren't infallible - I've even heard shocking rumours that a few have failed perfectly roadworthy cars just to get a bit of extra repairs business.

A few people on this site have reported that. They have taken their car to another testing station and the car has passed without any work being done in between.

The whole point of getting your MOT done a month before it expires is so that you have a bit of time to get faults fixed without being unable to drive.

... but is does depend on what the faults are.

Chopper_Read

jaybeetoo wrote: »

The police could pull you over for a blown main beam. Whether they decide to take action is another matter.

And they'd allow you to drive off whatever they did so it's hardly unroadworthy.

Quentin

jaybeetoo wrote: »

The are some defects that require immediate prohibition, some are delayed prohibition (so you can drive away to get them fixed) and some are advisory. Some of the advisory ones can still mean your car isn't legal and you risk prosecution.

Your posts that started this exchange incorrectly stated a failed mot means your car is not roadworthy, and (according to you) a fail means you must not drive the car!

jaybeetoo wrote:

I assume you haven't been driving the car since it failed the test?

jaybeetoo wrote:

If a car fails an MOT it is not in a roadworthy condition

This is just not the case, and scaremongering.

Why not stand corrected, rather than now start teaching us how to suck eggs?

Hintza

We had this problem both MOT and insurance were due in the last week of the month with VED due at the end. I'm took the car off the road for a couple of days so now MOT and Insurance are valid for VED purposes. Crazy system in this day and age.

andy2004

same thing happened to me, bought a car last year, put the papers away when i got home, after all i was told 10months MOT and tax on the car, turned out it wasnt, car tax disc renewal turned up, thought and did, go online and went through the process online and it came up FAILED, due to the MOT going to expire before the tax disc renewal date AKA MOT was 29th march, tax disc would start from April 1st. hence the failed.
got on the phone to the garage, the garage I use normally. earliest they could put the car in was 1 week away. gave me 1 week to get anything fix that i needed to if it failed, luckily the car passed its MOT, got the car home, and immediately went online and put in for the new tax disc. Disc turned up 3 days ago. put it on the car yesterday. But things due happen, time flies, especially if you changed your car and you forget due to other things happening. If I remembered to check my MOT date i would have put it in a month ago, so it could have been a lot worst, ie the MOT running out 3 months before the new tax disc being required.

redux

Deleted_User wrote: »

I think the OP is over reacting. My tax expired end of November and I didn't renew it online until 5th December. Nothing happened in that time and I still drove car.

Also you have just cost yourself more as the VED rates have just gone up today. My car is an extra £5 a year.

You were lucky.

The 5 days leeway to drive the car without displaying a tax disc while the new one is in the post only applies if it's renewed before the old one expires.

So if you'd renewed on 31st, you'd be ok until the 5th.

There is also still the 14 days leeway to renew, but the car must not be driven or parked on the road during that time

Strictly speaking, the OP of this thread has missed the chance to buy online and satisfy the conditions to drive without displaying. If the car needs to be used in the next few days it would be safer to get the car off the road for the rest of today, and buy a tax disc in a post office tomorrow.

alastairq

And they'd allow you to drive off whatever they did so it's hardly unroadworthy.

You are confusing your idea [and many others, it seems?] of being 'unroadworthy'.....and what is required in this regard, by Law.

Two very distinct things, I fear?

No one seems to have mentioned the fact that MoT test results are now recorded on a database......which is accessible to a lot of agencies.


Therefore, if driving after a car has failed an MoT [but which still has the old one 'in force'....]...will the fact the car has failed an MoT show up on a Police computer, for example?

After all, if a roadside vehicle check hilites a fault on a vehicle, the driver is often given so many days to present the vehicle at an MoT testing station [with the fault rectified]....and evidence of this presented at a Police station of choice?

Chopper_Read

alastairq wrote: »

You are confusing your idea [and many others, it seems?] of being 'unroadworthy'.....and what is required in this regard, by Law.

Two very distinct things, I fear?

No one seems to have mentioned the fact that MoT test results are now recorded on a database......which is accessible to a lot of agencies.


Therefore, if driving after a car has failed an MoT [but which still has the old one 'in force'....]...will the fact the car has failed an MoT show up on a Police computer, for example?

After all, if a roadside vehicle check hilites a fault on a vehicle, the driver is often given so many days to present the vehicle at an MoT testing station [with the fault rectified]....and evidence of this presented at a Police station of choice?

I ain't confused, it wasn't me who said a failed mot makes the car unroadworthy.

londonTiger

jacko74 wrote: »

I've got a similar problem...

Tax and MOT both due on 31 March

Tried to renew my tax on 24 March... wouldn't let me because the MOT was close to expiring and had to be renewed first.

Had car MOT'd on 25 March.. failed due to a minor problem with headlights, need to order a main dealer part which won't be available till 4th-5th April... not a problem for the MOT as I have 10 working days for a re-test BUT I won't be able to tax it till at least 4th April.

Ok I know I'd left it late-ish to renew tax and MOT (one full week before they both ran out) but it still seems to be a stupid system that refuses to recognise a valid MOT!

i got the car taxed first at the post office, i took everything with me, the license counterpart, logbook, mot, insurance. the clerk only checked my insurance. You could possibly just take your old MOT and try your luck. I bet they'll just get glanced at and approved.

If not, there are countless numbers of post offices ususally and you could just keep tryin your luck and get the tax.

It's silly bureaucracy - it's designed to stop these people driving around in £100 bangers that are a ticking time bomb that dont have road tax, insurance or MOT. The system is designed to catch these people. But it causes a big nuisance to law abiding people in the mean time.

paddedjohn

Chopper_Read wrote: »

And its 5 days.

Yeah you are right but that is 5 working days so 7 including the weekend. If you taxed it online on a Friday night you would be ok untill the following friday.;)