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Tesco Car Park Complaint

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  • Azari
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    goater78 wrote: »
    I always thought zebra crossing in supermarket carparks weren't covered by the Highway Code. Obviously I stop for them but I always assumed as they were drawn on by the supermarket themselves that they weren't legal.

    I live on a private road. Can we just draw a zebra crossing on it?

    You'd need to get qualified advice.

    I know that certain normal road rules apply to 'private' roads - drink driving rules, for example.

    I suspect that, whatever the rules, it would need the correct beacons to fulfil the legal definition of a pedestrian crossing.
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  • Azari wrote: »
    The reason why it is not mandatory to stop for people waiting at a crossing is that it would create a massive grey area surrounding the exact definition of 'waiting'.

    I don't think it's much of a grey area. If there's any doubt as I said you can use your horn to confirm what the predestrian is doing.
    goater78 wrote: »
    I always thought zebra crossing in supermarket carparks weren't covered by the Highway Code. Obviously I stop for them but I always assumed as they were drawn on by the supermarket themselves that they weren't legal.

    The thing is if you ran someone over because you didn't stop in this circumstance how well would it work as a defense?
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    I don't think it's much of a grey area. If there's any doubt as I said you can use your horn to confirm what the predestrian is doing.



    The thing is if you ran someone over because you didn't stop in this circumstance how well would it work as a defense?

    I'm pretty certain if you mowed a pedestrian down when you could clearly see them that it wouldn't really matter whether they are standing on a zebra crossing or not.

    The question is can you be penalised by the police for ignoring a zebra crossing if the crossing in question is privately drawn in a carpark.
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  • Azari
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    I don't think it's much of a grey area.

    But the teams of legally qualified people who have produced and advised on the Road Traffic Act and the highway code (over many, many, decades), don't seem to agree with you.

    Otherwise the highway code would say 'you must'.
    The thing is if you ran someone over because you didn't stop in this circumstance how well would it work as a defence?

    I think you should understand that you are not entitled to run into pedestrians no matter where they cross the road.

    And having a Zebra crossing does not give pedestrians carte blanche to jump into the path of oncoming vehicles.
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  • Azari
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    goater78 wrote: »
    I'm pretty certain if you mowed a pedestrian down when you could clearly see them that it wouldn't really matter whether they are standing on a zebra crossing or not.

    Quite.
    The question is can you be penalised by the police for ignoring a zebra crossing if the crossing in question is privately drawn in a carpark.

    The answer to which, as I said earlier, can only come from someone who is properly qualified to answer it.

    It's not something that you can derive by logic - you need to know the specifics of the law.
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  • DCFC79
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    edited 29 March 2013 at 1:18PM
    Threads getting interesting, the events gets changed with every new reply from the OP.
  • MothballsWallet
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    DCFC79 wrote: »
    Threads getting interesting, the events gets changed with every new reply from the OP.
    It's like a speech from the PM, isn't it? :D
  • NiallB
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    DCFC79 wrote: »
    Threads getting interesting, the events gets changed with every new reply from the OP.

    Is it just cynical me who wonders if we'll discover that the man on the crossing and the manager were Asian? ;)
  • mr_sharma
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    edited 29 March 2013 at 3:48PM
    We can only go on the information you give us.

    Your story is changing with each post - perhaps you need to refresh your memory as to what really happened?

    I think it's quite clear what the OP was trying to say and, in any case, would it really be that difficult to lend them the benefit of the doubt if you have issues over clarity?
  • gb12345
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    NiallB wrote: »
    Is it just cynical me who wonders if we'll discover that the man on the crossing and the manager were Asian? ;)

    Will someone please think of the children - it must have been very distressing for them.
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