CRB Criminal Record Check?

lost_for_words

I last year got a simple caution which came up on my dbs as assualt, It also showed up something I did back in 1982. That cost me 2 cleaning jobs and one other job that I had 15 years experience in. Luckily I have a job now but that latest caution has well and truly cost me big time where I will eventually have to sell my house and downsize big time.

Can I give you all a word of caution. Behave yourselves at all times.

bery_451

lost_for_words wrote: »

I last year got a simple caution which came up on my dbs as assualt, It also showed up something I did back in 1982. That cost me 2 cleaning jobs and one other job that I had 15 years experience in. Luckily I have a job now but that latest caution has well and truly cost me big time where I will eventually have to sell my house and downsize big time.

Can I give you all a word of caution. Behave yourselves at all times.

I thought criminal record happens when you plead guilty or get convicted in a court of law right?

Savvy_Sue

bery_451 wrote: »

I thought criminal record happens when you plead guilty or get convicted in a court of law right?

If you accept a caution to avoid going to court, that also appears on your criminal record when a DBS check is carried out.

So, behave yourself at all times, AND do NOT accept a caution when the nice policeperson suggests that you could then just go home and forget about the whole unpleasant business.

bery_451

Savvy_Sue wrote: »

If you accept a caution to avoid going to court, that also appears on your criminal record when a DBS check is carried out.

So, behave yourself at all times, AND do NOT accept a caution when the nice policeperson suggests that you could then just go home and forget about the whole unpleasant business.

What the hell? A caution makes someone a criminal having the same status as the criminal in prison that committed murder.


Doesn't sound right. I'm sure there is a difference between a criminal who done the crime and the person who has been cautioned.

Poppie68

Someone receiving a caution has still committed a crime , they were offered a caution and excepted so they don't have to go to court....
Obviously a DBS is going to show the caution as a crime has been committed.

Candyapple

Poppie68 wrote: »

Someone receiving a caution has still committed a crime , they were offered a caution and excepted so they don't have to go to court....
Obviously a DBS is going to show the caution as a crime has been committed.

What happens if you received a caution at the age of 13, would that still show up on a DBS check?

Savvy_Sue

bery_451 wrote: »

What the hell? A caution makes someone a criminal having the same status as the criminal in prison that committed murder.

Doesn't sound right. I'm sure there is a difference between a criminal who done the crime and the person who has been cautioned.

There is a difference: you are not necessarily guilty (although you may be), but it's a solution offered generally for less serious incidents.

People accept cautions for all sorts of reasons, but I don't think they often understand the implications. It brings the matter to a sort of end, they know they won't have the possibility of a court case hanging over them for months. There might actually be a very low chance of it going to court, and an even lower chance of being found guilty, but it's still hanging over you.

I've made sure my lads know that if they are arrested, accepting a caution isn't an easy way out, and they should take legal advice before doing so. Although some solicitors will recommend it.

(I'd just like to say that AFAIK my lads have never been in this situation, and I hope never will be, but it's as well to be well-informed!)

Poppie68 wrote: »

Someone receiving a caution has still committed a crime , they were offered a caution and excepted so they don't have to go to court....
Obviously a DBS is going to show the caution as a crime has been committed.

Probably most of the time, but I think sometimes it's offered inappropriately and the person being cautioned would not be convicted if it did ever go to court.

Candyapple wrote: »

What happens if you received a caution at the age of 13, would that still show up on a DBS check?

There are now situations in which 'old' offences and cautions don't show up on basic checks.

restless6

I have a caution from about 12 years ago and it does not show up on the new DBS check.

However, i still disclose it on application forms and in interview because i had a job offer withdrawn once when it came back on the old CRB check and I had told them in interview that I had no record.

I had said I had no record because I didnt think a caution was a record, i thought it was just a warning, so it wasn't an intentional lie but it cost me the job anyway.

So my advice would be to disclose it anyway, as my honesty in my new job was actually more important than the caution from over 10yrs ago.

bery_451

Yeah but imagine your Visa gets denied in USA or Australia because of the caution you received when you were 18 for speeding or a caution when you were 15 for swearing at a football match or a caution for self defending yourself against a drunken !!!! for example.


Sure cautions cant be taken seriously ruining a person record for life?

DCFC79

Depends how the employer views the incident, some will see it in a different light to others so won't always ruin a persons record for life.