Ignorance! Argh!!!!

lika_86

MissKeith wrote: »

Wait, what?! My sister expressed a view which was offensive and hurtful towards those with disabilities. And because I stayed calm and argued my case whereas she reacted aggressively and went for my emotional jugular, I'm in the wrong? What a very skewed view. It's not as if I got on her case because she didn't like the jambalaya I'd cooked, she said people with disabilities should not go to the cinema if they couldn't control themselves!

You called her a d*ck, not in my opinion a calm argument of your case. When you resort to name calling, you've already lost.

englishrose19

MissKeith wrote: »

Why should I?

Because you're old enough (I assume) to have a child so you should be old enough to not argue with your sister.

Or we're you dragged up?

marisco_2

Good grief I cannot believe how immaturely two grown adults choose to behave toward each other. My children are seven and ten years old and would not treat each other so badly, nor talk so rudely and aggressively.

Apart from anything else swearing and being so physically hostile toward each other, creates an awful atmosphere to expose your very young child to. No wonder he became so upset and distressed. OP most mothers go out of their way to provide a happy, stable environment to raise their children in. Not incite one that terrifies the poor little mite.

When you two finally leave home I bet your parents will sell up quick and buy a luxury one bed flat. Then they can guarantee having some well earned peace and quiet.

MissKeith

lika_86 wrote: »

You called her a d*ck, not in my opinion a calm argument of your case. When you resort to name calllready lost.

Actually I said "it is of my opinion that you are a d*ck" when she tried to use her "it's just my opinion!" defence just to demonstrate how silly her argument was. It just drives me mad when people hide behind that because they want to espouse hateful opinions. To me it's as daft as "no offense but...".

MissKeith

englishrose19 wrote: »

Because you're old enough (I assume) to have a child so you should be old enough to not argue with your sister.

Or were you dragged up?

So anyone who argues with a sibling has been dragged up? Duly noted. When you are in a environment around someone with very different views to your own, of course there will be clashes!

marisco_2

Most adults can debate in a civilised manner, without the need to swear, hurl insults at each other, swing for each other or terrify a vulnerable and impressionable young baby.

chewynut

My brother's like that. No matter how old we get, we can always get each other's backs up with a single sentence.

My pet hate is the way he tries to behave like a black gangster when he couldn't be a more sterotypical white boy. He flings n***a around and uses it to describe any and all coloured people.

He likes to tell me that he's not racist because he has black friends. Yes. Because knowing two black people gives you the right to fling about a word that has been purposefully used to oppress them.

He ends up threatening to punch me in the face because it's apparently the only thing that'll shut me up. You can tell what a nice man he is.

MissKeith

marisco wrote: »

Most adults can debate in a civilised manner, without the need to swear, hurl insults at each other, swing for each other or terrify a vulnerable and impressionable young baby.

I would like to add I didn't swear in front of my son, my dad bought him in because he was having a cuddle with him and could hear my sister yelling and popped his head in to see what was going on. That's when my sister started getting really angry. Looking back, I was so stupid to let it carry on for so long. I should have taken the baby and gone into another room.

MissKeith

chewynut wrote: »

My brother's like that. No matter how old we get, we can always get each other's backs up with a single sentence.

My pet hate is the way he tries to behave like a black gangster when he couldn't be a more sterotypical white boy. He flings n***a around and uses it to describe any and all coloured people.

He likes to tell me that he's not racist because he has black friends. Yes. Because knowing two black people gives you the right to fling about a word that has been purposefully used to oppress them.

He ends up threatening to punch me in the face because it's apparently the only thing that'll shut me up. You can tell what a nice man he is.

Maybe we should introduce him to my sister? I had her gay, black best friend practically in tears at me at the pub because she and their friends had been using homophobic language and thought it was okay because he was with them. I had to tactfully talk to them about how it's really not okay to use that language, especially around someone it was hurting and no, he's not "just being over sensitive".

balletshoes

MissKeith wrote: »

Actually I said "it is of my opinion that you are a d*ck" when she tried to use her "it's just my opinion!" defence just to demonstrate how silly her argument was. It just drives me mad when people hide behind that because they want to espouse hateful opinions.
To me it's as daft as "no offense but...".

you'd have a real problem with my mum then .
if you know your sister voices these opinions to wind you up, the only mature way to deal with it is to ignore it completely.
People form opinions in all sorts of ways, none of us can possibly experience everything thats going on in the world, and yet people have opinions on most of those things. And they are entitled to them - they are also entitled to give their opinion in their own home without needing to be called d**ks.

I have one sister who I consider a bigot - I get on great with her 95% of our time together. When she's going off on one and I disagree with her, I just keep my mouth shut or go do something else. I used to try and pull her up on her opinions, but she's never going to change her mind, there really is no point arguing with her about it.

As far as I'm concerned, bigots don't need anyone elses help to look foolish.