daughter being made to go to work and give up degree

tpl

jimmywx11 wrote: »

You are quite wrong in all you say. And who do you think you are telling other people where to live?

Your 'arguments' are not very helpful in this context, however well intentioned. If you want to change the way society/economies/ work..this isn't the place to do it. There are more useful ways to influence without telling people on internet forums to ignore and evade all current rules, which may get them into trouble, as well as causing problems for others. Perhaps you need to team up with an anarchist group somewhere.

tpl

paulineb wrote: »

Ive signed on and studied at the same time and I was living at home at the time, it was over 25 years ago now but I was allowed to claim JSA and study as long as it was less than 12 hours a week. I did that for a year. There are people who are on benefits who can study for degree courses. .

...only if you have children or a disability you can claim benefits whilst studying for a degree. And yes 25 years ago, people had it very easy - lucky them!!!

duchy

Back then students could sign on the dole over the summer holidays too...........Not anymore.

Dunroamin

duchy wrote: »

Back then students could sign on the dole over the summer holidays too...........Not anymore.

When I first went to university you could sign on at Christmas and Easter as well!

Caz3121

I suspect that the people dealing with the original claim may have asked whether she was in receipt of any student funding for the degree. With answering correctly 'no' (as it is a second degree) they may then have made the assumption that it was a part time course. Unless your daughter declared it was a part time degree (which it does not sound like it is)

getmore4less

Back when I was at uni you got a job that sponsered you to go,

gave you paid work in the summer, easter and xmas breaks.

The trick to successfull further education is revent work experience.

claire16c

The OP seems to be missing the point.

Either you are a student or you are a job seeker. You can't be both at once if its a degree course -at least not a jsa receiving job seeker.

The course hours are irrelevant. That's the lecture time but when exactly is her daughter going to be studying? I'm guessing she didn't show the job centre the sheet that unis often hand out where it says what their expectation of reading/studying/writing assignments is! Being a student isn't just about the hours you are physically sat in a lecture hall!

I'm guessing the person she showed the piece of paper to wasn't paying attention properly, and the claim is fraudulent even if she thinks its not.

After all if she is a job seeker then she wouldn't have lectures to miss whilst at the shop job she's been offered.

paulineb_2

I think it was 1987 when you couldnt sign on in the summer or at Christmas anymore. I wasnt able to when I started my degree in 1989. For me at that time I needed extra Highers to do the degree I wanted to do, got them and then went to uni and then straight back on the dole again believe it or not. I graduated in 1992 and back then it wasnt easy to get jobs, not as hard as it is right now but I struggled and ended up doing a post grad which got me full time work and I stayed working full time until 2009. Since then Ive had a couple of spells of unemployment lasting and a couple of years of working part time/self employment.

Im actually extremely glad I did take that year to sign on and get extra qualifications and got my degree and post grad because I think Id have found it much harder to get work without them. Although I spent 20 years working with young people and addicts and then after I was made redundant jacked it in to become a fitness instructor, the qualification cost me £620. I dont think you can under estimate the value of education and sometimes the career you think you'll be in for life isnt the one you end up doing.

I dont think all the daily mail/express stories on people and their benefit lifestyle helps either. Apart from that 1 year where I signed on and I lived at home, any other time Ive been on benefits Ive been running a home on JSA and its not been a lifestyle, its been just about existing.

Person_one

Dunroamin wrote: »

When I first went to university you could sign on at Christmas and Easter as well!

Hardly seems worth the effort for a couple of weeks. Did you have to sign on and off every time? Was there a wait of a few weeks back then?

Charityworker

My step daughter did a degree in maths at manchester. She only had 7 hours a week of lectures so got a full time evening job as a waitress. She had her days free for study whilst still working. Now shes finished her degree and hasn't been able to get a graduate job and is still waitressing.