Nice people thread part 8 - worth the wait

Kerfuffle

HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »

Sure.

But those things over there are all relatively cheap.

People there tend to live in houses with a garden/driveway big enough to park it in, fuel is cheaper, most places don't have launch fees, most people already own big cars that can tow easily.

As I said, it's about as posh or uncommon as owning a motorbike would be here.

Perhaps best illustrated with pictures.


Redneck bass boat owners....





Working class bass boat owners....





Middle class bass boat owners....





Posh bass boat owners.....

I live in Canada and can verify the above to be very accurate

However, the Redneck Bass Boat has the functionality to double up for when going ice fishing. The seat is removed from the planks of wood and placed directly onto the ice in front of the washing machine drum which is used as a barbeque. Copious quantities of Bud are necessary in both situations.

lostinrates

PasturesNew wrote: »

Have you looked into camping lavatory solutions? A self-composting one? I was reading a couple of days ago about the bloke who invented the first loo - can't remember who he was ... anyway, it involved spreading a layer of dry soil over each occurrence.... then it could be shovelled out for fertiliser.

Might be big issues hiring a commercial loo for radioactive purposes..... but burying your own poo in a quiet corner of the land won't be a problem.

I hadn't considered it. I just don't really know really where to start trying to learn about the way I am most comfortable of dealing with it all.

I'm so wrapped up in Spider-Man potential. If that works I can just wrap it up in some web

neverdespairgirl

PasturesNew wrote: »

£450? How much do garaging fees, takeoff/landing fees, fuel, insurance, maintenance cost broken down?

Oh ... and let's not forget the cost of getting a license, almost forgot that bit. Isn't that expensive?

I'd love a sit on kayak, they cost about £300, which is expensive. But even so the club fees, learning/qualification (compulsory) fees, cost of driving to the water/parking fees, would add up to close to £450/year probably. Not to mention the occasional swift half in the club house and maybe plate of chips as a treat 2x a year ... soon adds up. I've also nowhere to keep it, so would have to pay the club for storage. Oh - and I'd need a wetsuit.

I don't know how it breaks down, exactly. All I know is that the total amount we spend on it, minus the rent from the flying school, comes to an average of £450 / hour.

There is various maintenance which needs to be carried out every so many flying hours - which varies for different parts. Every few thousand flying hours they essentially take the whole engine apart, then x-ray all the bits, and put it back together.

The maintenance does cost a fortune - but is offset by the fees from renting it out.

misskool

neverdespairgirl wrote: »

I don't think that's quite right. OH owns a whole plane, not 1/8th one, and the cost to him of flying is about £450 a year, taken on average over the past 3 years, and he flies a lot. There is also an opportunity cost from the money tied up in the plane, which cost £25,000 in 2005.

OH owns it, and uses it whenever he likes. It's rented by a flying school, who use it to teach people to fly, and pay per hour. The flying school also organises all the maintenance and airworthyness certificates.

I looked into it when I had my trial lesson and it would have cost about £10,000 from first lesson to initial pilot's license so there is that cost as well. You have to take lesson every 2 weeks apart or else they don't count so it's about £300-400 a month on lesson and then the exams and certifications.

I have to spend my £10k on other things but it was very tempting :rotfl::rotfl:

PasturesNew

neverdespairgirl wrote: »

I don't know how it breaks down, exactly. All I know is that the total amount we spend on it, minus the rent from the flying school, comes to an average of £450 / hour.

There is various maintenance which needs to be carried out every so many flying hours - which varies for different parts. Every few thousand flying hours they essentially take the whole engine apart, then x-ray all the bits, and put it back together.

The maintenance does cost a fortune - but is offset by the fees from renting it out.

£450/hour? I bet that was a typo .....

So you're BTL Flylords......

neverdespairgirl

silvercar wrote: »

We also have blue boxes for paper, brown bins for recyclable plastics and bottles and green bins for garden waste and cardboard. All bins have to close properly and be put at the property boundary for collection. The rota means each bin is collected fortnightly.

Colourful streets, particularly on streets with limited space and terraced houses where the front gardens are rows of different coloured bins.

Far too complicated for me. My parents have a similar thing in Kent, lots of different boxes / bins / days for collection.

Islington Council makes life very simple. Everything that can be recycled (and it's a long list of stuff) goes in clear bin bags which the council delivers regularly. Everything rubbish, not for recycling, goes in black bin bags.

All bin bags, whether see-through or black, go in the bin cupboard and are collected every d ay.

neverdespairgirl

misskool wrote: »

I looked into it when I had my trial lesson and it would have cost about £10,000 from first lesson to initial pilot's license so there is that cost as well. You have to take lesson every 2 weeks apart or else they don't count so it's about £300-400 a month on lesson and then the exams and certifications.

I have to spend my £10k on other things but it was very tempting :rotfl::rotfl:

There isn't that cost as well, if you buy a plane just before you start your flying lessons. A seriously large chunk of that £10k is hiring the plane per hour, which OH didn't have to pay.

PasturesNew wrote: »

£450/hour? I bet that was a typo .....

So you're BTL Flylords......

Definitely a typo!

Yes, it's about £450 per year, plus the opportunity cost of having £26k invested in hte plane itself, plus any depreciation (likely to be very small).

Looking on the bright side, we don't own all the planes in Maidstone......

lostinrates

neverdespairgirl wrote: »

Far too complicated for me. My parents have a similar thing in Kent, lots of different boxes / bins / days for collection.

Islington Council makes life very simple. Everything that can be recycled (and it's a long list of stuff) goes in clear bin bags which the council delivers regularly. Everything rubbish, not for recycling, goes in black bin bags.

All bin bags, whether see-through or black, go in the bin cupboard and are collected every d ay.

It's very sensible.

I think we were three times a week in Camden. Cannot remember now.


We're fortnightly. If you are unwell or on holiday or anything, tough.


I freeze food waste until the night before but there are some kinds of waste I will not freeze. There are something that after almost a fortnight are IMO practically environmental health concerns in weather like this.

neverdespairgirl

In our area of Camden, we had 11 rubbish collections a week - daily Mon - Sat, evenings Mon - Fri. That was impressive (-:

lostinrates

PasturesNew wrote: »

It is! I've never known anywhere more regular than weekly.

Here it's two bins, each bin has a different week..... so each of two bins is fortnightly. So you have to [a] remember get the right bin [c] not go on holiday ever. Or, decide it's all too complex and do what I do.

I've also got "glass recycling" .... but so far I've only been here 8 months so it's just one empty sauce bottle and 4 empty coffee jars, so I've not bothered to take that to the recycling yard yet and find the right bin for glass.

We have one week non recyclables, the other plastic bottles and cardboard, which is a recent introduction and fabulous IMO.

Then alternate weeks other rectangles on another day, but they are ones, not wheelies,and I can no longer lift them out, so I just take them to the tip myself instead which is easier for me.


We can have a fortnightly green waste collection on request. But there is no food waste or anything, that son non recyclable in this area.