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Nice people thread part 8 - worth the wait

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  • lostinrates
    lostinrates Posts: 55,283 Forumite
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    vivatifosi wrote: »
    Granted, truly posh is a jet. But all planes and even gliders are a bit posh. Unless they come from Airfix.

    Lots and lots of not posh people have gliders. We see them all the time round here. Though tbh I find watching gliders in the air utterly boring :o. I will never tire of seeing them being towed down the road which always makes me giggle because it looks so funny. Dh's uncle died in a glider a couple of years ago.
  • neverdespairgirl
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    .

    In the States, someone on an OK middle class income could just about afford to buy and maintain an old Cessna and go flying every weekend, if that was their only real extravagance or hobby.

    Here you'd be firmly into 1/8th of a plane share territory and only flying a couple of hours a month on the same income.


    I don't think that's quite right. OH owns a whole plane, not 1/8th one, and the cost to him of flying is about £450 a year, taken on average over the past 3 years, and he flies a lot. There is also an opportunity cost from the money tied up in the plane, which cost £25,000 in 2005.

    OH owns it, and uses it whenever he likes. It's rented by a flying school, who use it to teach people to fly, and pay per hour. The flying school also organises all the maintenance and airworthyness certificates.
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  • neverdespairgirl
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    zagubov wrote: »
    i'm glad I found out how you disposed of rubbish before I read about the plane. I was thinking laterally about how a flat-dweller might dispose of rubbish and all I could imagine was an open window and a catapult!:D

    Sorry, the truth is far more boring and pedestrian than that.
    ...much enquiry having been made concerning a gentleman, who had quitted a company where Johnson was, and no information being obtained; at last Johnson observed, that 'he did not care to speak ill of any man behind his back, but he believed the gentleman was an attorney'.
  • PasturesNew
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    Our block of flats has a bin room - part of the building, accessible only from the street, though. It's locked, and all of the block puts rubbish and recyling in there, and the bin men have a key. It's emptied daily.
    Brilliant idea, so long as it's well placed and you're not in a flat that gets smell/noise when it's used. Much easier than having your own bin.

    Where I was living 6 years ago there was a large communal wheeled bin in the car park. That was great, just had to take stuff out and forget it. No worrying about bin day, putting bins out, bringing them back in again, remembering which day is bin day....
  • HAMISH_MCTAVISH
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    I don't think that's quite right. OH owns a whole plane, not 1/8th one, and the cost to him of flying is about £450 a year, taken on average over the past 3 years, and he flies a lot. There is also an opportunity cost from the money tied up in the plane, which cost £25,000 in 2005.

    I read that part and thought... Eh?
    OH owns it, and uses it whenever he likes. It's rented by a flying school, who use it to teach people to fly, and pay per hour. The flying school also organises all the maintenance and airworthyness certificates.

    Ahhhh.

    Sound like a really good deal. :)
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  • PasturesNew
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    I don't think that's quite right. OH owns a whole plane, not 1/8th one, and the cost to him of flying is about £450 a year, taken on average over the past 3 years, and he flies a lot. There is also an opportunity cost from the money tied up in the plane, which cost £25,000 in 2005.

    OH owns it, and uses it whenever he likes. It's rented by a flying school, who use it to teach people to fly, and pay per hour. The flying school also organises all the maintenance and airworthyness certificates.
    £450? How much do garaging fees, takeoff/landing fees, fuel, insurance, maintenance cost broken down?

    Oh ... and let's not forget the cost of getting a license, almost forgot that bit. Isn't that expensive?

    I'd love a sit on kayak, they cost about £300, which is expensive. But even so the club fees, learning/qualification (compulsory) fees, cost of driving to the water/parking fees, would add up to close to £450/year probably. Not to mention the occasional swift half in the club house and maybe plate of chips as a treat 2x a year ... soon adds up. I've also nowhere to keep it, so would have to pay the club for storage. Oh - and I'd need a wetsuit.
  • zagubov
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    Lots and lots of not posh people have gliders. We see them all the time round here. Though tbh I find watching gliders in the air utterly boring :o. I will never tire of seeing them being towed down the road which always makes me giggle because it looks so funny. Dh's uncle died in a glider a couple of years ago.
    Been up in them a few times back in my neverending student days. Got a gliding lesson from DW for my 40th birthday but not been up since.

    There's a substantial death rate for the sport. Since becoming a dad I'm a lot less keen on it.:eek:
    I'd hate for my kids to take it up.
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  • PasturesNew
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    I have been thinking about hiring a portaloo for radioactive week or so.
    Have you looked into camping lavatory solutions? A self-composting one? I was reading a couple of days ago about the bloke who invented the first loo - can't remember who he was ... anyway, it involved spreading a layer of dry soil over each occurrence.... then it could be shovelled out for fertiliser.

    Might be big issues hiring a commercial loo for radioactive purposes..... but burying your own poo in a quiet corner of the land won't be a problem.
  • silvercar
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    We were given one black wheelly bin 23 years ago, at that time you could buy a second bin. Now "to be green" you are not allowed to buy a second bin, though if you have 5+ in your family you are entitled to a larger bin. We also have blue boxes for paper, brown bins for recyclable plastics and bottles and green bins for garden waste and cardboard. All bins have to close properly and be put at the property boundary for collection. The rota means each bin is collected fortnightly.

    Colourful streets, particularly on streets with limited space and terraced houses where the front gardens are rows of different coloured bins.
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  • PasturesNew
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    edited 14 July 2013 at 6:36PM
    Redneck bass boat owners....

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    I'd genuinely be prepared to give that a go!

    Genius.
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