Nice people thread part 8 - worth the wait

zagubov

PasturesNew wrote: »

Viva told me once that you can join many libraries for e-books.... you don't have to live in the county. And it's true, I did apply to one and get a card. You'll have to find which ones allow it.

That;s me now joined my neighboruing borough's library in that there London consortium. Now to join the library where I work. Expect the nearest Surrey one should be on my list too.:D

vivatifosi

Itismehonest wrote: »

Ah, I see.
I'm not sure what the planning on it would be but, that aside, I think you'd probably have to make sure that you got a conservatory specifically designed for the extra roof weight you'd be subjecting it to. Even fake slates are fairly heavy.

There are a few different roofing options out there. The one I linked to is made of metal and lightweight - specifically designed to replace a polycarbonate roof. It's also talks about building regs on the site. It literally is a conservatory with a non-standard roof. Some companies do something that looks more like a proper roof, but then you get into a much higher cost.

GDB2222

I don't think this looks right, though. There are no eaves, for example. And it just looks 'false', like a toupee. Besides that, a dark roof outside whatever room you put this will make the room very dark. I notice that they have incorporated a couple of Velux windows to let the sun in.

I still don't see what's wrong with a conventional conservatory with black-out blinds to protect from the sun. When it comes to selling, that would be far less problematic. And if the blinds make the room dark on less sunny days, presumably you can pull them back in some way, at least when buyers view.

CKhalvashi

GDB2222 wrote: »

I don't think this looks right, though. There are no eaves, for example. And it just looks 'false', like a toupee. Besides that, a dark roof outside whatever room you put this will make the room very dark. I notice that they have incorporated a couple of Velux windows to let the sun in.

I still don't see what's wrong with a conventional conservatory with black-out blinds to protect from the sun. When it comes to selling, that would be far less problematic. And if the blinds make the room dark on less sunny days, presumably you can pull them back in some way, at least when buyers view.

Mine's got glass roof panels with Hillarys blinds on the top (posh alert?!)

If you draw the blinds, even on a day like today looks like it'll be, you can still fall asleep on one of the sofas in there (as I did the other week, and was late picking my DDs up from school!)

CK

lostinrates

GDB2222 wrote: »

I don't think this looks right, though. There are no eaves, for example. And it just looks 'false', like a toupee. Besides that, a dark roof outside whatever room you put this will make the room very dark. I notice that they have incorporated a couple of Velux windows to let the sun in.

I still don't see what's wrong with a conventional conservatory with black-out blinds to protect from the sun. When it comes to selling, that would be far less problematic. And if the blinds make the room dark on less sunny days, presumably you can pull them back in some way, at least when buyers view.

I think a poor example of anything doesn't mean a good example isn't possible.

I love the sound of viva's sleep out. With a solid roof rather than a clear one its not so alien a concept.....think 'orangery'. Have a small loggia sort of bit just out side kitchen, its SO useful. It got small on rebuild, but I would have kept full depth if I could, And I live houses with verandas from much the same reasons, that useful indoor/ outdoor space 0ffers something no conservatory nor pergola can in practicality. For example, mine lets me dry washing out side almost year round, gives me somewhere to feed dogs outside, provides some shelter. The last house, where it was bigger, the was somewhere to sit out year round, whatever the weather.


but, I'd probably do it in one of two ways.

1. Built as a garden structure lean to against the house ( my parents last house did this) it wrapped around the hOuse a bit, was dry in rain and shades in the sun, it also filtered the sun to a room with triple aspect, so the shading to the south became an actual benefit. , it would not be much to add fly screens. It would be cheapest option and possibly the most aesthetic IMO, but, would have no actual foot print increase, though desirability of the hOuse might well be improved

2. Standard construction, as a more recognisable 'orangery' in style to suit viva's modern house with solid roof, bi fold doors etc as he others have discussed. I think it wold not be what viva actually wants, would be the most expensive, but would increase house footprint for sale.


Tbh, pretty sure I personally would opt for number 1 unless there was compelling reason not to.

lostinrates

Grrrr.. I have dh's cold. We had to make an emergency run to a twenty four hour chemist to get nasal spray because I kept dreaming about being buried alive and drowning. Lol.

Have to get rid of it quickly or else I cannot have the lumbar puncture, and I am in the right mindset now, so really feel committed to going through with it.

It's such beautiful weather, we both just want to lay out in the sun all day I think.

Oh huh...dh just brought a bowl of fruit for us to pick at


Yum

vivatifosi

GDB2222 wrote: »

I don't think this looks right, though. There are no eaves, for example. And it just looks 'false', like a toupee. Besides that, a dark roof outside whatever room you put this will make the room very dark. I notice that they have incorporated a couple of Velux windows to let the sun in.

I still don't see what's wrong with a conventional conservatory with black-out blinds to protect from the sun. When it comes to selling, that would be far less problematic. And if the blinds make the room dark on less sunny days, presumably you can pull them back in some way, at least when buyers view.

Mine wouldn't look like the one in the pic. It would run more or less the length of the back wall, slightly smaller on either side so as not to build up to my neighbours' plot lines. I don't need to worry about sunlight into my living room as that is dual aspect. Also, you would have plasterboard into the eaves so it wouldn't look dark.

I really don't want a conservatory, it would not be practical for my requirements and would also mean my living room would be even hotter than it is - it is south facing. Equally, there is a ceiling price for houses here and if I incur the cost of building a "proper" extension rather than a conservatory I may not recoup all of the build cost.

I'm not that keen on the solution shown in the picture, I'd prefer the kind of shingles on a roll that they have in Florida. I'm in the seeing what's available phase at the moment. Sadly, there isn't a lot. Lir is right, it's more like an orangerie that I'd want, but due to constraints on the ceiling price I wouldn't recoup the full build cost.

The whole have a ceiling on a conservatory is a fairly new concept that has taken off in the last couple of years. I think more solutions will come to the market if I hold off.

Spirit_2

vivatifosi wrote: »

I really don't want a conservatory, it would not be practical for my requirements and would also mean my living room would be even hotter than it is - it is south facing. Equally, there is a ceiling price for houses here and if I incur the cost of building a "proper" extension rather than a conservatory I may not recoup all of the build cost.

'm it's more like an orangerie that I'd want, but due to constraints on the ceiling price I wouldn't recoup the full build cost.

The whole have a ceiling on a conservatory is a fairly new concept that has taken off in the last couple of years. I think more solutions will come to the market if I hold off.

When are you thinking of moving?

If you will get several years of pleasure from it does it matter?

Think what you spend on travel/leisure and that you are never going to get that money back either.:)

Nikkster

Hope you don't have to move any time soon, Viva x

And lir - hope you shake off the cold asap. As previously mentioned, I take echinacea when a cold comes on, and it does seem to do the trick. Whether that is placebo or not, I don't know (and don't necessarily mind), although considering what I now do for a living, I should probably do a little more reading about what the side effects might be!

misskool

lir: hope you recover soon and get doing the stuff you need to do.

viva: best wishes and good luck with sleepout.

we've been discussing my management style this morning. I need to learn to let go.