Appealing the Bedroom Tax

mysterywoman10

I suggest you read my sentance again please what I was saying is I don't mind a general debate but I don't want to debate someone's personal circumstances, which I agree there is a fine line on this forum.

Which is not quite how you seem to be interpreting it.

What right are you talking about? You can give them your advice I am not stopping you from doing that, but as we discussed a few days ago I draw the line at telling people how to live their lifes and having them torn to shreds, which is why I am sure many never post again on here.

ab.da54

mysterywoman10 wrote: »

What right are you talking about? You can give them your advice I am not stopping you from doing that, but as we discussed a few days ago I draw the line at telling people how to live their lifes and having them torn to shreds, which is why I am sure many never post again on here.

I have not torn anyone to shreds.

You are also telling people how to live their lives by suggesting what you think they need.

mysterywoman10

I'm am not suggesting what they need I am recognising a need.

I was talking generally about how people's lifes are riped to shreds, not you specifically.

You jumped into challenge what I said to the poster not the other way around and said you didn't like it well tough.

midnight_express

mysterywoman10 wrote: »

I suggest you read my sentance again please what I was saying is I don't mind a general debate but I don't want to debate someone's personal circumstances, which I agree there is a fine line on this forum.

Which is not quite how you seem to be interpreting it.

What right are you talking about? You can give them your advice I am not stopping you from doing that, but as we discussed a few days ago I draw the line at telling people how to live their lifes and having them torn to shreds, which is why I am sure many never post again on here.

Who died and left you in charge ? How comes you are the only one with the right to an opinion.

angrybuffalo

Dunroamin wrote: »

A couple with two children and claiming JSA will receive around £260 per week on top of having their housing costs covered; I consider that a generous package.

The reduction of HB is 14% of the rent but it isn't 10% of a claimant's total income as was suggested. As an example, a family claiming £100 HB will lose £14 per week which, if you assume a low CTB of £40 pw, works out as a loss of around 3.5% of their total income.

I see. a £14 a week loss is a lot to lose from what remains a low income for a family of 4 - regardless what percentage of income it is. As a point of accuracy, it is nearer 5.5% of his disposable income than 3.5% - you have added in the housing benefit, which pays his landlord, and is not available income. remember, he has to use his available income to make up the shortfall in his rent - he can't use the rent money to do that!

mysterywoman10

Pardon?

If I am personally attacked for giving advice then I will stand up for myself I'm not going to be told to shut up and not inform people of their rights.

If ab.da.54 wants to give the poster some advice then feel free to so, the poster can make their own minds up on what they want to do.

midnight_express

mysterywoman10 wrote: »

Pardon?

If I am personally attacked for giving advice then I will stand up for myself I'm not going to be told to shut up and not inform people of their rights.

If ab.da.54 wants to give the poster some advice then feel free to so, the poster can make their own minds up on what they want to do.

But you're the one who is continually telling other people to shut up and that they have no right to express their opinions.

mysterywoman10

I have not told anyone to shut up, or they have no right to express their opinon. What I have said is I don't want to debate a poster's personal circumstances.

ab.da54

mysterywoman10 wrote: »

I'm am not suggesting what they need I am recognising a need.

Here, you were suggesting they need a 2 bed bungalow, not recognising that they have a need:

mysterywoman10 wrote: »

by the sounds of it need to be to a 2 bungalow not another house because of the problems with going up and down the stairs, when he is having a very bad day.

Why is it ok for you to suggest they need a bungalow, but not ok for someone else to suggest a TV in the bedroom if they moved to a two bed house?

mysterywoman10

What exactly are you trying to prove ab.da.54?

If someone can't get up and downstairs easily what use is a house to them? That is the "need"

It could be a ground floor flat /bungalow does that make you happy or a lift?

The point being there is little point in moving from one house to another if you can only sleep upstairs regardless of bedrooms or TV's!