Chip shop chips not suitable for veggies?

motch

soolin wrote: »

It's all to do with whether the animal dies as a result of obtaining the food. So meat (as you might say if you read the pamphlets) is murder, eggs that are unfertilised is not. Same as cheese, the animal provides milk and survives to live another day.

So eggs would be fine, jelly babies would not be fine as they contain gelatine which is made from the bones of animals.

What about eating fish/seafood, alot of vegetarians eat fish, thats an animal.

Torry_Quine

motch wrote: »

What about eating fish/seafood, alot of vegetarians eat fish, thats an animal.

If you eat fish then you aren't a vegetarian. :mad:

poet123

You are a Pescatarian if you eat fish.

System

I think 'animal' tends to be used, in a lot of cases, to mean land based as opposed to water based animals.

People that eat fish but not other animal meat should correctly be called pescetarians rather than vegetarians.

Kirri

motch wrote: »

What about eating fish/seafood, alot of vegetarians eat fish, thats an animal.

No vegetarians eat fish.

Fire_Fox wrote: »

In my ignorance I assumed all vegetarians asked whenever they ate out, just like you read ingredients labels when in the supermarket. Surely the only things you can trust look the same as when they come off the plant and are completely unprocessed?

Quite a lot of menus are marked for vegetarians (not saying it's always accurate however..).

Johno100 wrote: »

Not sure if the calf that dies to produce the rennet found in most cheese would agree with that statement.

Very easy to get cheese suitable for vegetarians, it is widely labelled/available everywhere.

heretolearn_2

Jeeez, why do you care if someone is veggie or not?

I'm not, but I was for 15 years.

1) the majority of cheese is now made with rennet substitute, and is suitable for vegetarians. Vegetarians are aware of which they can and can't eat. No parmesan is veggie, for example. Most supermarket main types of cheese are.
2) No vegetarian eats fish. Sometimes ignorant people who eat fish call themselves vegetarian, but that's their error, and doesn't have anything to do with real vegetarians.
3) Yep, thousands of male chicks die in the egg industry. calves die in the diary industry. We'd all prefer they didn't, but life isn't perfect. To say it isn't worth being veggie instead of vegan because of this, is kinda throwing the baby out with the bathwater. You can't avoid indirectly causing deaths of some creatures, so don't bother avoiding any that you would cause directly and eat and fill your boots with meat? Not very logical.
4) Chips cooked in animal fats soak up the fat, so if you eat them you are eating animal fat. Vegetarians don't eat any parts of dead animals. Even the fat. Did you think chips don't soak up the fat at all? How come chips have tons more calories than potatoes cooked in water then?
blimey, we'd all live on chips if that were true....dur!

Johno100

Kirri wrote: »

No vegetarians eat fish.



Quite a lot of menus are marked for vegetarians (not saying it's always accurate however..).



Very easy to get cheese suitable for vegetarians, it is widely labelled/available everywhere.

Strange, you are happy to accept food labeling as correct, but in your previous sentence you have doubts over restaurant menus?

Kirri

Johno100 wrote: »

Strange, you are happy to accept food labeling as correct, but in your previous sentence you have doubts over restaurant menus?

Food labelling shows ingredients ie whether the cheese has veg rennet in for example, it should be more accurate/regulated. Restaurant menus don't have all the information on the menu, ie it doesn't label ingredients, it may be a cheese dish for example but unless I saw the products involved it's impossible to say ie a dish with parmesan can never be veggie, it's relying on the restaurant to know what they are talking about. I have asked to see exact food ingredients listings before when eating out and it's not clear from a menu, I have quizzed waiting staff and contacted companies direct for clarification. Things are getting better but restaurant menus never give as much information as food labelling itself.

OrkneyStar

reehsetin wrote: »

Saw a chippie on Alex Polizzi's tv show recently say that they put beef dripping in their oil but it wasn't written anywhere, does anyone know if this is a common thing in the industry?
Didn't realise it was something that needed to be checked!

I am not a vegetarian, so apologies if this offends , but chips cooked in dripping tend to taste 100 times better than those cooked in sunflower or vegetable oil.
I would always ask just in case, but as someone said they are often cooked together anyway.

Johno100

Kirri wrote: »

Food labelling shows ingredients ie whether the cheese has veg rennet in for example, it should be more accurate/regulated. Restaurant menus don't have all the information on the menu, ie it doesn't label ingredients, it may be a cheese dish for example but unless I saw the products involved it's impossible to say ie a dish with parmesan can never be veggie, it's relying on the restaurant to know what they are talking about. I have asked to see exact food ingredients listings before when eating out and it's not clear from a menu, I have quizzed waiting staff and contacted companies direct for clarification. Things are getting better but restaurant menus never give as much information as food labelling itself.

Just checked a pack of Wykes Cheese, the only ingredient listed is Cheddar Cheese and that it contains milk (:T). It's got a 'suitable for vegetarian' symbol but no mention of veg rennet or otherwise.