No VAT registered...showing VAT in quote, NOT in invoice

roblos71

Ok, we're getting there
I mean HMRC...what number? When I call the VAT helpline they say they're not interested because no mention of VAT in the invoice, they're not interested in the quote and they have no training in checking invoices (for example they cannot tell me the requirements of an invoice as in here: http://www.itzbits.co.uk/business-articles/64/What-information-do-I-need-to-include-on-an-invoice.html). This is what I got told today :eek:

the_r_sole wrote: »

HMRC - i.e. the people who enforce the vat legislation, from the information you have given you already know this but you are hoping that someone is going to tell you not to pay the guy and save a bit of money

justjohn

trading standards - will handle any wrong doing to joe public....however they will ony sort black and white cases....don't believe everything they say.

you have had advice...all of it the same advice....

If you keep thread going there is bound to be at least one doofus that will agree with you lol

roblos71

The VAT helpline (HMRC) said that because no mention of VAT. I could not find a helpline for a non VAT invoice

Trading Standards told me that according to the words in the quote (invoiche is for the same amount) VAT had been charged according to common sense (their interpretation)

I got lost in between...

the_r_sole wrote: »

and you have already said you contacted hmrc and they have told you that you don't have any reason to report the invoice - but seemingly you are unwilling to take that advice, the advice of the body capable of enforcing their own rules! :mad:

System

roblos71 wrote: »

When I call the VAT helpline they say they're not interested because no mention of VAT in the invoice

therefore he can't be claiming that he is charging you VAT :money:

justjohn

roblos71 wrote: »

Ok, we're getting there
I mean HMRC...what number? When I call the VAT helpline they say they're not interested because no mention of VAT in the invoice, they're not interested in the quote and they have no training in checking invoices (for example they cannot tell me the requirements of an invoice as in here: http://www.itzbits.co.uk/business-articles/64/What-information-do-I-need-to-include-on-an-invoice.html). This is what I got told today :eek:

Cause theres no wrong doing except your interpretation of a statement.

roblos71

justjohn wrote: »

If you keep thread going there is bound to be at least one doofus that will agree with you lol

That's a great idea!

I would be happy if someone could just give me a number to call where the advisor does not ask me to call someone else because they have no competence/expertise/training

System

https://www.gov.uk/report-vat-fraud

justjohn

ill leave this thread now, think YOU have more pressing problems than a bill from a plumber lol

Biggles

roblos71 wrote: »

2) this is not the first job the plumber does for me (always paid in full previously) but so far someone else used to manage my bookkeeping. I realised that in all his quotes he writes that prices are inclusive of VAT. When I compare the quote with someone who is actually paying VAT I think the price is fair, but when I started checking his invoices I found out he was not actually paying any VAT (no mention of VAT in the invoice) thus:

a) he was actually charging me more than his fair share of profits compare to VAT registered tradesmen quoting the same
b) he was making me believe he was paying VAT with the words in his quotes

Ah, so your beef really is that, though he said in his quote that VAT was included, you took no notice and compared his figure with tradesmen who said they would add VAT? Well, as you have come to realise, that was just a mistake on your part.

Of course he was paying VAT (eg for his materials etc) and including it in his price, and he was very clear about that, how can you say he was doing anything wrong?

Over the years, I've had dozens of quotes that say "including VAT" and, where I've had them do the work for me, they never add VAT to their bill. Exactly as I expected.

What on earth is your problem with this guy? He's not only complying precisely with the law, but being very clear about it. If he's slightly more expensive than one or two others, choose another quote.

Biggles

the_r_sole wrote: »

https://www.gov.uk/report-vat-fraud

Don't encourage him, you R Sole (no offense, I just enjoyed adding your name like that!) ;-)