EON standing charge but no supply to property

C_Mababejive

As has been stated, if the meter is in place then unless on a no standing charge tariff,you will be charged.

If you have the meter removed then at some future point, the network operator will dig up and cut the service pipe off. If gas is then required in future,the person requiring it will have to commission a new supply and pay ££££ for it.

It isnt all made up to extract money from punters. Its the Law.

Best solution? If you dont use gas,switch suppliers to a non standing charge arrangement and if you have any sense,do it via quidco $$$. In this way,you may get lucky and get some cashback,you will also retain the supply to your home.

Oscargrouch

C_Mababejive wrote: »

As has been stated, if the meter is in place then unless on a no standing charge tariff,you will be charged.

Best solution? If you dont use gas,switch suppliers to a non standing charge arrangement and if you have any sense,do it via quidco $$$. In this way,you may get lucky and get some cashback,you will also retain the supply to your home.

That sounds all well and good; BUT. The non standing charge suppiers are goig to be rare, within the next 3 months due to the Gov. EoN have stated that 'if you want a meter re-installed within the next 10 -15 years, chances are - they would not do it; as they say, 'there will not be Gas available to put through it'. That tells me; Don't buy an expensive gas cooker, or install Gas C/H cos in 10 - 15 years it will be de-funked: or is this EoN 'SPINNING A YARN'.

chanz4

lemontart wrote: »

National grid do not normally charge you as end user for a live or dead check unless that has changed in the past month -they may charge a supplier or a supplier may arrange it for you and pass that on to you. If your service is live which after around 6 months plus unlikely then just a case of getting new meter installed by supplier of choice. The 6 month period may well be less in some cases.

After 12 months the service becomes dead, as the transporter cuts the t off at the road for safety and prevent theft. If this happens its a new supply £1000+

Oscargrouch

chanz4 wrote: »

After 12 months the service becomes dead, as the transporter cuts the t off at the road for safety and prevent theft. If this happens its a new supply £1000+

So, what is the way around this if you don't want to end up with a 'Rip Off' charge; and you do not use Gas at this present time but you may wish to in the future ? Assuming there will be gas available in the future, according to EoN.

Edit: Theft of what, the underground pipe work?

C_Mababejive

#25 To be fair it isnt a rip off charge. Its a consequence of privatisation and legislation.

The gas transporter, for EG National Grid,owns the main and service pipe that goes to your house. When a meter is connected to it,the gas supplier has to pay NG to transport gas to their meter. The gas supplier also probably pays a rental charge to rent the meter from a meter asset manager. If a meter is fitted but no gas is passed then no one makes any money and further,the supplier makes a loss because they are hiring a meter and paying transportation charges for zero return i.e your not buying any gas !

Now the legislation bit. The Gas Safety Management Regulations require gas transporters (eg NG) to disconnect as close to the main as is reasonably practicable,any gas service pipe which has not been in use for more than a year. They dont have a choice. Its the law.

lemontart

Martyn1981 wrote: »

Hiya Malc, any chance you can clarify this a bit more. If I'm reading what Wywth and Lemontart have said correctly, then:-
if Edwink (or others) get their gas meter removed, re-fitting shouldn't cost much or at all, but if any major works take place in between then the connection will not be maintained. Is that about right?

So in this real situation, we are to have our gas mains and supply pipes upgraded in the next months or so. My neighbour opposite has solid fuel burners, and leccy. If they don't have a gas account/meter then when the pipework 'goes past' their house, no connection (supply pipe) will be made to the new gas main?

I house sat for my father 2 weeks ago whilst his supply pipe was upgraded. Meter taken out (less than 5 mins), new yellow supply pipe shoved up the old metal one (1 min), meter replaced, gas stove and boiler checked (less than 10 mins). But if he'd been bypassed, presumably excavation work would be needed for reconnection - any guesses how much that might be?

Thanks.

Mart.

If no registered gas supply then no supply pipe will be laid from mains to property. correct.

Speak to the appropriate gas network or licensed operator for guidance on price, but all quotations would be subject to survey to ensure what you require is possible and meets current laws.

It is not always the case that a new pv pipe can be fed through existing metal pipes for lots of reasons so again your network folk can advise further,

edwink

C_Mababejive wrote: »

#25 To be fair it isnt a rip off charge. Its a consequence of privatisation and legislation.

The gas transporter, for EG National Grid,owns the main and service pipe that goes to your house. When a meter is connected to it,the gas supplier has to pay NG to transport gas to their meter. The gas supplier also probably pays a rental charge to rent the meter from a meter asset manager. If a meter is fitted but no gas is passed then no one makes any money and further,the supplier makes a loss because they are hiring a meter and paying transportation charges for zero return i.e your not buying any gas !

Now the legislation bit. The Gas Safety Management Regulations require gas transporters (eg NG) to disconnect as close to the main as is reasonably practicable,any gas service pipe which has not been in use for more than a year. They dont have a choice. Its the law.

Hello

If this is correct there would be no point in me trying to arrange for another supplier with a no standing charge tariff. It has been suggested on here that I change suppliers because Eon has just introduced a standing charge. But, who is going to give us a gas supply contract if we consume ZERO gas and the company would make a loss out of our custom or should I say lack of it.

Malc from Eon - I am still waiting to hear from you - Please pm me!!!

Edwink

Martyn1981

C_Mababejive wrote: »

Now the legislation bit. The Gas Safety Management Regulations require gas transporters (eg NG) to disconnect as close to the main as is reasonably practicable,any gas service pipe which has not been in use for more than a year. They dont have a choice. Its the law.

Cheers, didn't know that bit. So technical question (sorry if you don't know the specifics), when you say disconnection as close to the main as possible - for most of us, I assume excavation work would be needed. Or ..... million dollar question ...... would this just mean some sort of capping on the householders property?

If the later, then re-connection might be simple (note might), if the former, then I guess a large sum of monies will be requested.

Mart.

C_Mababejive

#29 in many cases it would mean disconnection by excavation. If you are lucky enough to have a valved supply outside then it could be valved off. Flats/apartments have different rules.

bendipa

edwink wrote: »

Hello

If this is correct there would be no point in me trying to arrange for another supplier with a no standing charge tariff. It has been suggested on here that I change suppliers because Eon has just introduced a standing charge. But, who is going to give us a gas supply contract if we consume ZERO gas and the company would make a loss out of our custom or should I say lack of it.

Malc from Eon - I am still waiting to hear from you - Please pm me!!!

Edwink

The answer is Scottish Power. Go to their website and click on SP products They are the only major energy company still giving customers the option whether to be billed by standing charges or without (higher tarriff rate) But I think you have to have both fuels supplied by them to qualify for the 'no standing charge' option Just don't tell them you'll be using zero gas. Ebico are another company worth looking at who seem to have very reasonable prices and don't have standing charges which they advertise on their website.Screw effin' standing charges!

I'm in exactly the same boat. I barely use any gas throughout the year and now Npower intend to slap a £158 annual standing charge on me whereas I only consumed about £25 worth last year.These standing charges have little to do with simplifying the system and everything to do with screwing more money out of light users. Heavy users aren't saving either, but they end up paying a similar amount as before as they would have gone with a standing charge plan previously.