Does this suggest the tide is turning on immigration ?

nomoreboomandbust

A few days old I know, but I stumbled upon this :

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/butlins-recruits-eastern-europe-brits-1739676

I saw this on the front of a printed copy of the Sunday Mirror. I couldn't believe my eyes, I thought I had bought the Sun or the Daily Mail by mistake.

I have read it for the last 18 months or so and I have not seen any article which was in any way negative regarding immigration, so I was quite shocked to see this. It has come to something when even left leaning papers are publishing articles like this and I think it's about time this was treated with the seriousness it deserves

GlynD

It's what I would expect from holiday parks. The good old days of promoting and training novice entertainers are over, as is the decent wage you used to find there. It's the same on British registered cruise ships.

CLAPTON

ScottWhiliams wrote: »

I think the tide is turning, rules are tightening up. There will be a lot less coming to our shores in the future.

Even if a Brit wants to marry someone from another country it is very hard and if they do they can not get any public funds for 5yrs.

It will slow down all the Eastern ladies meeting a lonely Brit gentleman and after she has her green card she bu**ers off.

no change for people from the EU

Sampong

ScottWhiliams wrote: »

Not yet, but lots of talk those from the EU will not get so many benefits.

What a situation if loads come over from Eastern Europe and do all the low paid jobs paying tax for all the lazy fat Brits to sit back and claim benefits that the EU arrivals cant get.

I don't think it will come to that. I think not as big a numbers of people will be coming over here if they can't get the benefits they would be better off staying where they are.

Interesting.

Are all Brits lazy and fat?

GlynD

Sampong wrote: »

Interesting.

Are all Brits lazy and fat?

I confess................ :cool:

CLAPTON

ScottWhiliams wrote: »

Not yet, but lots of talk those from the EU will not get so many benefits.

What a situation if loads come over from Eastern Europe and do all the low paid jobs paying tax for all the lazy fat Brits to sit back and claim benefits that the EU arrivals cant get.

I don't think it will come to that. I think not as big a numbers of people will be coming over here if they can't get the benefits they would be better off staying where they are.

there's been lots of talk about movement of EU people for years

what's different this time?

GlynD

CLAPTON wrote: »

there's been lots of talk about movement of EU people for years

what's different this time?

Because Romamia and Bulgaria are in relative poverty. The outcry is that they might come here just to sign on the dole rather than graft like the Poles did.

BobQ

nomoreboomandbust wrote: »

A few days old I know, but I stumbled upon this :

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/butlins-recruits-eastern-europe-brits-1739676

I saw this on the front of a printed copy of the Sunday Mirror. I couldn't believe my eyes, I thought I had bought the Sun or the Daily Mail by mistake.

I have read it for the last 18 months or so and I have not seen any article which was in any way negative regarding immigration, so I was quite shocked to see this. It has come to something when even left leaning papers are publishing articles like this and I think it's about time this was treated with the seriousness it deserves

Surely the point of this story is not anti-immigration. The issue is that rather than advertise available jobs in the UK so that residents of the UK can apply for them (which means other EU nationals can do too) some employers are just advertising them ouside the UK to ensure applicants are not UK residents. They are also interviewed and selected abroad.

But as jobs are dished out more than 1,000 miles away, there is no recruitment drive in Britain.
And many people desperate for work living within a few miles of the camps are being told there are no jobs available for the summer season

How can it be fair that UK residents are not allowed to apply for UK based jobs?

Sampong

BobQ wrote: »

Surely the point of this story is not anti-immigration. The issue is that rather than advertise available jobs in the UK so that residents of the UK can apply for them (which means other EU nationals can do too) some employers are just advertising them ouside the UK to ensure applicants are not UK residents. They are also interviewed and selected abroad.

How can it be fair that UK residents are not allowed to apply for UK based jobs?

Yes I agree but generally what is referred to as "immigration" issues are issues caused by EU freedom of movement rules - this being one of them. Without freedom of movement Butlins would still be employing British workers instead of recruiting cheap labour from Eastern Europe. And, under the laws and rules we subscribe to - they are not doing anything wrong. Political parties at the moment are promising to tighten up on this sort of thing - but that will prove difficult whilst still remaining compliant with EU law.

Another reason why I want out of the EU and a more sensible points based immigration system. Of course, those of us that want a sensible immigration policy (note that this does not mean NO immigration) have to get used to being called racists, xenophobes.....etc etc

It's a fate shared by Diane James, the Eastleigh UKIP candidate who beat the Tories into 3rd place. She and UKIP were called a "disgusting" party who "prey on the vulnerable in society" by a young lady in the audience, who......as it turns out just happens to be a paid labour party activist "randomly" selected by the labour supporter Dimbelby.

So "random" was the selection that she somehow knew prior to the show that her question was going to be selected and was bragging about it on her twitter page asking all her followers to watch QT.

What a corrupt shambles the BBC is.

CKhalvashi

GlynD wrote: »

Because Romamia and Bulgaria are in relative poverty. The outcry is that they might come here just to sign on the dole rather than graft like the Poles did.

This isn't as much the case as you may expect.

We have a few Romanians and a few Bulgarians working for us, and they've grafted, in one case right the way to the top.

CK

Sampong

CKhalvashi wrote: »

This isn't as much the case as you may expect.
CK

Pfffft.

Well we'll see whether it becomes an issue or not in another year or so won't we.