Why do Police not know the Law

Dinnie2006

Common Law is not recognized in this country..No such thing as Squatters rights any more..True. We don,t have to wait till shes at work we can enter with reasonable force.She has no claim over the property what so ever.
The Police can get involved at our request..She Caused criminal damage by changing the locks on a property that is,nt her,s and she has no right to make any alterations to said property with permission

BitterAndTwisted

Power of Attorney? What the blazes are you talking about?

In any case, it's not reasonable to expect the police to know or care about civil law. Their speciality is the CRIMINAL law. Goodness knows they've got their hands full already trying to catch the really bad guys without having to mediate about property ownership and access.

Mojisola

If you look at the forums on problems with neighbours, you'll see many of the police either don't know the law or don't want to get involved. Their advice is often based on the victim shutting up and not causing problems.

pigpen

BitterAndTwisted wrote: »

Power of Attorney? What the blazes are you talking about?

In any case, it's not reasonable to expect the police to know or care about civil law. Their speciality is the CRIMINAL law. Goodness knows they've got their hands full already trying to catch the really bad guys without having to mediate about property ownership and access.

OP has apparently sought power of attorney for her son who is residing at one of her majesties finer establishments..

I think the police usually have real crime to deal with so won't get involved in a domestic dispute unless they are called, they are trying to find murderers and rapists and burglars not refereeing a squabble between a young woman and her ex-partners mother. I can imagine the paperwork would also be very dull and boring so to be avoided at all costs.

BitterAndTwisted

Oh, so the rozzers might have had some success in catching one of the bad guys already. Good for them.

Karma can be a truly terrible thing if you're on the receiving end of it.....

Lance

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/4428771

Looking at your previous thread on this subject your son went to prison for drug cultivation and girlfriend visited him on a regular basis so he told her she could live in his house with their new born son. Now she has sent him a 'Dear John' letter he wants her and his son thrown out so he can live there as he gets out of prison soon. You want to change the locks so she cannot get in but want the Police to stand by and 'prevent a breach of the peace' if she resists.

So.... you go and force entry and if she starts any trouble the Police grab her and sling her and her child out into the street while you take possession and then what? Do the Police take her away to stop her trying to get back in or do they wait all day to stop her trying to get back in when they go? I wonder why they are no keen... perhaps people are calling 999 to report crimes for them to deal with.

Perhaps you should consider letting your son deal with this when he gets out by liaising with her, his solicitor and her family etc. If not then go there whilst she is out and take control of the property. If she returns and causes damage that is a crime. Your son is an adult who is responsible for this entire situation not the Police so perhaps he should sort it out.

cockaleekee

Are you going to make your grandson homeless?

Why am I uncomfortable with this ...

Fire_Fox

Has the girlfriend been paying any 'rent' or a contribution to the mortgage at all whilst the son has been inside, even if nothing like market rate? If so she may well be deemed a tenant and your son her landlord, that means your son nor his representatives cannot enter the property unless you want to be in the poop for harassment or illegal eviction.

She does not need to have a printed tenancy agreement to have rights - ask the regulars over on the House Buying, Renting & Selling' board. I don't really understand why you posted your threads where people don't have detailed knowledge of housing law. If she is legally deemed a tenant she also has the right to change the locks.

It's a bit rich to use phrases like 'meal ticket' when he is the one in prison at the taxpayers' expense. Also rather shocking that he wants to evict his own child so the taxpayer can pick up the tab for their housing. She may well be hoping for a no fault eviction order (S21 actioned by the courts) so she can get rehoused by the council. She may even have been advised by the council to stay put until evicted.

If you honestly think cultivating drugs in his late twenties was a first offence you are very naive, I've been around a lot of people buying using and selling illegal substances for many years and I've never known anyone take an 'entry level position' that hardcore. It's just the first time he got caught breaking the law.

Dinnie2006

Lance wrote: »

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/4428771

Looking at your previous thread on this subject your son went to prison for drug cultivation and girlfriend visited him on a regular basis so he told her she could live in his house with their new born son. Now she has sent him a 'Dear John' letter he wants her and his son thrown out so he can live there as he gets out of prison soon. You want to change the locks so she cannot get in but want the Police to stand by and 'prevent a breach of the peace' if she resists.
Suggest you re read...she has changed the locks and refused to allow us to even collect post..we have asked that she gives us post..no response
we asked for a key afetr she changed locks ...no response

So.... you go and force entry and if she starts any trouble the Police grab her and sling her and her child out into the street while you take possession and then what? Do the Police take her away to stop her trying to get back in or do they wait all day to stop her trying to get back in when they go? I wonder why they are no keen... perhaps people are calling 999 to report crimes for them to deal with.
We are not forcing enrty we have advised her we will be turning uo to change locks.I have never said i will be asking them to attend..i clearly stated i will be upon solictors advise making them aware of a potential Breach of The Peace..

Perhaps you should consider letting your son deal with this when he gets out by liaising with her, his solicitor and her family etc. If not then go there whilst she is out and take control of the property. If she returns and causes damage that is a crime. Your son is an adult who is responsible for this entire situation not the Police so perhaps he should sort it out.

Yea again re read...my son will be home on Tag...she has already staed he is not welcome there...it is only his house after all

BitterAndTwisted

Coo. I'm feeling exceptionally unsympathetic towards the OP and his/her jail-bird son now.

Who would have the utter gall and heartlessness to kick their own child and its mother out onto the streets? Oh, I know! Someone who's already proven themselves to be without respect for the laws of the land. The utter irony of seeking redress via the law now.