The 'Green Deal' Q's

Richie-from-the-Boro

Johnandabby wrote: »

Yes, to be fair you did say 'won't have cavity walls', rather than highly unlikely to.

There were a lot of local builders who understood the benefits of cavity wall construction long before it became common practice - quite a few local to us here. However, also a lot with only a 50mm cavity or less that wouldn't be suitable for retrofit insulation.

No my friend, you be fair and even handed and show me the # N° where Richie-from-the-Boro said """'won't have cavity walls"""

Johnandabby

Richie-from-the-Boro wrote: »

No my friend, you be fair and even handed and show me the # N° where Richie-from-the-Boro said """'won't have cavity walls"""

Yes, it was actually macman who said that. Fair cop!

ic

macman wrote: »

If your house was built in 1895 then it won't have cavity walls.

My house built with cavity walls in 1897 must have been space age at the time.

As for the OPs point about problems - I had cavity wall insulation installed seven years ago - I've had no trouble whatsoever.

Cliecost

ic wrote: »

My house built with cavity walls in 1897 must have been space age at the time.

As for the OPs point about problems - I had cavity wall insulation installed seven years ago - I've had no trouble whatsoever.

How's it going? Do you see any increased thermal properties? Does it feel noticeably warmer?

ic

Definitely - compared to friends that haven't insulated their homes, the house warms up faster when the heating is turned on, and then stays warm for longer. The walls aren't as cold to the touch. The bathroom and kitchen of the house were built with cavity walls that weren't suitable for insulation (so aren't insulated) - those rooms are much colder than the rest of the house. When the heating turns off, they cool down much faster.

grahamc2003

Cliecost wrote: »

My loft is done. What I would want is new windows and door as they are as good as single glazed. They pour the warm air out, useless.

I wouldn't get cavity wall done because my house was built in 1895 and I've heard nothing but bad stuff from people who've had it done on pre 1980 houses.

Seems like this deal is pretty 5h1te for me then.

Mine was built before 1895, and has cavity walls. The cavity is very wide compared to modern houses. I had cwi installed last year, and nearly emptied the lorry of the insulation.

I too was worried about having cwi - had it arranged twice before over the years and canceled each time, my concern being the slate damp course, which I, and my surveyor, thought could be damaged by the many 1inchish holes they drill into the wall. I shouldn't have worried about that, since they also drilled a 5 inch hole a foot above the damp course to install a vent. No damaged damp proof course apparent yet.

We have a bit of damp in one corner, but have always had that (26 years), and cwi hasn't made it worse (or better).

It does make a difference. I know because our main room is heated by a stove, and it used to be cold in the morning - now there's quite a bit of residual heat.

The main aim of the green deal, afaiia, is insulation. I don't think other measures can be green-dealed until both loft and cvi (if suitable) and maybe draught proofing have all been done. Perhaps a GD assessor ould onfirm that?

My council is offering free assessments for the first few thousand, so I've got one being booked to see what they have to say.

Ecodave

You can have any measure installed under the green deal that is specified on an EPC. The limitations are based on the Golden Rule, so you need to have enough 'savings' estimated to be able to fund the Green Deal package. If not, you will need to introduce some other funding to reduce the amount loaned. Of course, insulation measures deliver those savings that allow other measures to be thrown into the package, so most green deal plans will include insulation measures.

Coulsdon_Town

Yes, the high savings from loft and cavity wall insulation can be used to offset the relatively low savings (when compared to the outlay) of doing say, double glazing, so that the whole package meets the 'golden rule'. I believe that if your Green Deal Report recommends loft and/or cavity wall, you must agree to do them in order to get a green deal loan - i.e. you can't use a green deal loan for other measures if you don't do the loft/cavity walls where these are recommended.
Good to see you active an a green deal thread Ecodave

Ecodave

Hi Coulsdon Town,

Just to clarify, you can use the Green Deal for any measure that appears as a recommendation on a EPC (except low energy lighting). You are thinking of the stipulation relating to the cash back scheme that says in order to claim cash back you must also install loft insulation and cavity wall insulation, where these are specified on the EPC.