The 'Green Deal' Q's

Ecodave

I understand many companies will attempt to "pre-assess" in order to prevent people paying for unnecessary surveys. So if you tell them that you have had loft/wall insulated and are only interested in getting windows on Green Deal, they should be able to explain that the savings are likely to be insufficient to support the Green Deal finance.

At least they "should" say that!

Richie-from-the-Boro

Cliecost wrote: »

Does anyone else on here think it's a good deal? If not, why? Is it good for people who can't get normal loans or credit?

- those "who can't get normal loans or credit?" will form the 'easy meat' in the salesman's sandwich
- they are not stupid, they know its a very bad deal, but their menu of options is limited to one - The Green Deal
- go where 'diywhynot' sent you, and read~all~about~it there / here

monstereyebrows

Ecodave wrote: »

I understand many companies will attempt to "pre-assess" in order to prevent people paying for unnecessary surveys. So if you tell them that you have had loft/wall insulated and are only interested in getting windows on Green Deal, they should be able to explain that the savings are likely to be insufficient to support the Green Deal finance.

At least they "should" say that!

Hi Eco Dave if you look accross to the other thread on Green Deal look at Gily3 post thats the exact situation described! The assessment was pointless for what she wanted windows and boiler she had loft and cavity done couple years ago.

Cliecost

My loft is done. What I would want is new windows and door as they are as good as single glazed. They pour the warm air out, useless.

I wouldn't get cavity wall done because my house was built in 1895 and I've heard nothing but bad stuff from people who've had it done on pre 1980 houses.

Seems like this deal is pretty 5h1te for me then.

Johnandabby

Cliecost wrote: »

My loft is done. What I would want is new windows and door as they are as good as single glazed. They pour the warm air out, useless.

I wouldn't get cavity wall done because my house was built in 1895 and I've heard nothing but bad stuff from people who've had it done on pre 1980 houses.

Seems like this deal is pretty 5h1te for me then.

Reality is that double glazing doesn't save lots of money. The Green Deal actually exposes this myth, hence not meeting the payback criteria for finance. Double glazing does improve comfort levels.

macman

Cliecost wrote: »

My loft is done. What I would want is new windows and door as they are as good as single glazed. They pour the warm air out, useless.

I wouldn't get cavity wall done because my house was built in 1895 and I've heard nothing but bad stuff from people who've had it done on pre 1980 houses.

Seems like this deal is pretty 5h1te for me then.

If your house was built in 1895 then it won't have cavity walls.
You can't pick and choose what upgrade components you want or don't want under this scheme. If the assessor computes that double glazing and draughtproofing alone would not create a saving in energy bills greater than the outlay, then you won't qualify.

Cliecost

macman wrote: »

If your house was built in 1895 then it won't have cavity walls.

That's a bit presumptuous of you, don't you think???

I live here, the deed says it was built in 1895, I've seen between the walls and there is a cavity, last time I checked that is the defeinition of cavity walls...

Most people would first of all ask if I was sure it had cavity walls because most houses then didn't, not just say no they don't lol. I suggest you go here and learn about the subject first! :rotfl:

macman wrote: »

You can't pick and choose what upgrade components you want or don't want under this scheme. If the assessor computes that double glazing and draughtproofing alone would not create a saving in energy bills greater than the outlay, then you won't qualify.

I understand that. It is why, above, I said this scheme would be 5h1te for me.

Richie-from-the-Boro

Cliecost wrote: »

That's a bit presumptuous of you, don't you think???

I live here, the deed says it was built in 1895, I've seen between the walls and there is a cavity, last time I checked that is the defeinition of cavity walls...

Most people would first of all ask if I was sure it had cavity walls because most houses then didn't, not just say no they don't lol. I suggest you go here and learn about the subject first! :rotfl:



I understand that. It is why, above, I said this scheme would be 5h1te for me.

Anything is possible, but should be measured against probable. If your dwelling is 1895 its possible but improbable that it has cavity walls. Your 1895 is 19th century but widespread cavity builds were in their infancy till about the 1920's, people like Stevie Wonder, Led Zep, Floyd, and the Stones were already on the music scene before cavity walls became widespread, and part of the UK building regs. 1895 is possible but improbable whilst not unthinkable.

Cliecost

Richie-from-the-Boro wrote: »

Anything is possible, but should be measured against probable. If your dwelling is 1895 its possible but improbable that it has cavity walls. Your 1895 is 19th century but widespread cavity builds were in their infancy till about the 1920's, people like Stevie Wonder, Led Zep, Floyd, and the Stones were already on the music scene before cavity walls became widespread, and part of the UK building regs. 1895 is possible but improbable whilst not unthinkable.

I get where you are coming from but, like I said, most people would say 'most 1895 house's don't have it' not say 'no!' without asking any questions.

Johnandabby

Richie-from-the-Boro wrote: »

Anything is possible, but should be measured against probable. If your dwelling is 1895 its possible but improbable that it has cavity walls. Your 1895 is 19th century but widespread cavity builds were in their infancy till about the 1920's, people like Stevie Wonder, Led Zep, Floyd, and the Stones were already on the music scene before cavity walls became widespread, and part of the UK building regs. 1895 is possible but improbable whilst not unthinkable.

Yes, to be fair you did say 'won't have cavity walls', rather than highly unlikely to.

There were a lot of local builders who understood the benefits of cavity wall construction long before it became common practice - quite a few local to us here. However, also a lot with only a 50mm cavity or less that wouldn't be suitable for retrofit insulation.