Bedroom Tax and kids living away??

Nada666

Clearly anyone who has ever had a child or been married should automatically be given a three or four bedroom house by the council. This does appear to be a genuine belief of many idiots out there! Four to six subsidised houses for every two couples.

Dunroamin

nannytone wrote: »

gordon brown and tony vlair are the masters of the situation we are in now ( and om definately not a tory!)

employers have systematically lowered wages as the tax credit system made up the defecit.
never before were such a large number of working families entitled to benefits. and the only cuase can be that the wages were so low.
but now everyone on benefit of any kind, for whatever reason, is being hit.

and all because brown and blair wanted to buy votes!

The number of people who only work part time is one of the maiin reasons for the increase in tax credits.

nannytone_2

Dunroamin wrote: »

The number of people who only work part time is one of the maiin reasons for the increase in tax credits.

as i said ... all thanks to blair and brown ....

princessdon

nannytone wrote: »

gordon brown and tony vlair are the masters of the situation we are in now ( and om definately not a tory!)

employers have systematically lowered wages as the tax credit system made up the defecit.
never before were such a large number of working families entitled to benefits. and the only cuase can be that the wages were so low.
but now everyone on benefit of any kind, for whatever reason, is being hit.

and all because brown and blair wanted to buy votes!

It's both the employers AND the workers who take advantage who are to blame. Housing costs do not help either.

princessdon

nannytone wrote: »

as i said ... all thanks to blair and brown ....

They don't force someone to refuse work or work to the minimum only an individual cam do that!

nannytone_2

princessdon wrote: »

It's both the employers AND the workers who take advantage who are to blame. Housing costs do not help either.

so its the employers and workers to blame?

and whoever made the rules for tax credits that enabled the situation....

and look who's paying the price!
the disabled!!

princessdon

nannytone wrote: »

so its the employers and workers to blame?

and whoever made the rules for tax credits that enabled the situation....

and look who's paying the price!
the disabled!!

Really - disabled only? Even if you believe that -then you open up a wide argument. Disabled WTC, disability credits that parents claim etc.

Still sticking to that?

Dunroamin

nannytone wrote: »

so its the employers and workers to blame?

and whoever made the rules for tax credits that enabled the situation....

and look who's paying the price!
the disabled!!

I certainly don't think that a single person should be able to claim tax credits when working part time and the hours required from couples with a child are quite ridiculous!

Mojisola

nannytone wrote: »

and look who's paying the price!
the disabled!!

One of the worst things about having to survive long term on benefits is the lack of choice and options.

If you're disabled, it's very stressful, knowing that your future is in other people's hands because you don't have the health to go out and make changes to your life.

It's the reason why politicians and journalists who do the "live on benefits for a week" don't get a real feel for what it's like. They still have the option to go back to their good life at the end of the week.

nannytone_2

Mojisola wrote: »

One of the worst things about having to survive long term on benefits is the lack of choice and options.

If you're disabled, it's very stressful, knowing that your future is in other people's hands because you don't have the health to go out and make changes to your life.

It's the reason why politicians and journalists who do the "live on benefits for a week" don't get a real feel for what it's like. They still have the option to go back to their good life at the end of the week.

you have just said, what ive been trying to say.

but when i say i have no choice people assume that its just about the reduction in housimg benefit and say 'move then'!

if it was that easy.... dont they think id have done that?