Bedroom Tax and kids living away??

SandraScarlett

bestpud wrote: »

Lots of hope being pinned on the Labour party here.

Their ridiculously generous welfare policies got us into this situation!

They won't change it in a hurry - they know they can't afford to!

They might say they will but it won't be the first time a party has back tracked from its election manifesto. They just didn't have the guts to do it themselves.

People are also underestimating how far the recession is hitting tax payers from all angles too and many welcome the benefit cuts.

Yes, that's what I meant. There are loads of posts about this "cruel" government, or similar, but workers/pensioners are classed as lucky, and if you're an owner occupier, you're living the life of Riley!

I'm as sure as I can be that "An Even Newer" Labour, will make some great promises, but as the gold's gone, I don't know what they'll sell off this time.

xx

mazza111

sunnyone wrote: »

Prove it, where are the stats to back up this claim, and not that same crud again please but real stats that dont include everyone who has decided that they are disabled under the DDA.

The goverment use DLA/AA to classify disability, how many severely disabled people are hit by this?

Severely disabled are those on mid/high rate care or either rate of AA because people can get low rate care for very minimal needs like not being able to cook a meal or needing help for one hour per day, the stats for people on low rate care who are hit would also be interesting to see.

Disabled people should not be blanketly exempt form this but there should be exceptions for those that are in adapted properties.

I don't often agree with you sunnyone. But I do on the adapted properties

However, I would class my daughter as severely disabled as a wheelchair user. Not because she gets MRC, cos she gets LRC, because she tries to keep as much independence as she can. It's a struggle, but she does try I actually believe she should be receiving MRC for the help she's receiving through the day atm, but am extremely grateful that she's getting any help at all after the ATOS fiasco with her ESA, it kinda makes me not want to rock the boat.

GlasweJen

I don't think people realise just how difficult being in a wheelchair actually is - even if you are self propelling!

We are fair game for anyone who wants to stare, our companions are spoken to on our behalf "does she want raspberry on her cone?", we get overlooked when waiting at counters, we need to find a lowered pavement to cross the road - my nearest one is on a corner which is very convenient!, it's difficult to turn or stop a wheelchair when your wheels are wet, impossible to use in the snow, you get dog poo on your wheels, hands/gloves and that's minging, you can't reach shelves in supermarkets, you can't get onto some buses, you can't access older buildings, people think it's perfectly ok to take you and move you out their way!

I could rant on all day, I swear if I ever manage to stand up again I might get violent with the first person to "park" me in a corner.

bestpud

GlasweJen wrote: »

I don't think people realise just how difficult being in a wheelchair actually is - even if you are self propelling!

We are fair game for anyone who wants to stare, our companions are spoken to on our behalf "does she want raspberry on her cone?", we get overlooked when waiting at counters, we need to find a lowered pavement to cross the road - my nearest one is on a corner which is very convenient!, it's difficult to turn or stop a wheelchair when your wheels are wet, impossible to use in the snow, you get dog poo on your wheels, hands/gloves and that's minging, you can't reach shelves in supermarkets, you can't get onto some buses, you can't access older buildings, people think it's perfectly ok to take you and move you out their way!

I could rant on all day, I swear if I ever manage to stand up again I might get violent with the first person to "park" me in a corner.

I did a wheelchair awareness session at college once and we had to go round in a wheelchair. It was quite an eye opener!

Even things like taking books to the library counter were harder than any of us thought! It was only a low counter but, when you are sat, you have to approach it sideways or lean, don't you? I just blundered on up and then realised I couldn't reach!

Made us all think!

CH27

GlasweJen wrote: »

I don't think people realise just how difficult being in a wheelchair actually is - even if you are self propelling!

We are fair game for anyone who wants to stare, our companions are spoken to on our behalf "does she want raspberry on her cone?", we get overlooked when waiting at counters, we need to find a lowered pavement to cross the road - my nearest one is on a corner which is very convenient!, it's difficult to turn or stop a wheelchair when your wheels are wet, impossible to use in the snow, you get dog poo on your wheels, hands/gloves and that's minging, you can't reach shelves in supermarkets, you can't get onto some buses, you can't access older buildings, people think it's perfectly ok to take you and move you out their way!

I could rant on all day, I swear if I ever manage to stand up again I might get violent with the first person to "park" me in a corner.

My mum was in a wheelchair for about year & it was a huge eye opener.
People can be so rude & dismissive.

SandraScarlett

CH27 wrote: »

My mum was in a wheelchair for about year & it was a huge eye opener.
People can be so rude & dismissive.

Mine too. She was as sharp as a nail, but couldn't walk, so when I wheeled her into a shoe shop, and she'd made her request for style and size, I couldn't work out why the salesman, after putting her shoes on, said to me "does that feel comfortable, do you think?" :rotfl:

xx

Dunroamin

SandraScarlett wrote: »

Yes, that's what I meant. There are loads of posts about this "cruel" government, or similar, but workers/pensioners are classed as lucky, and if you're an owner occupier, you're living the life of Riley!

I'm as sure as I can be that "An Even Newer" Labour, will make some great promises, but as the gold's gone, I don't know what they'll sell off this time.

xx

It really annoys me when people comment about how "lucky" you are to have the pension that you've spent your working life earning!

mazza111

GlasweJen. Totally agree with everything you've said. DD should be getting her electric one soon, which I'm hoping will make things a little easier. But in the meantime, she self propels a wee bit, I push a wee bit, and so we go on. But her wrists and shoulders are too far gone to really manage self propelling. Think we must be very careful, we've not encountered any dog poo, but it's early days :rotfl:

It's funny in shops when we're together as some assistants stretch past the dd to give me her change :rotfl:

mysterywoman10

I absolutely agree about wheelchair users ! It's incredibly difficult to get around anywhere.

I was merely making the point that it isn't just "wheelchair" users that should be exempt and adapted properties.

A severely disabled adult with LD can't just up and move, and even if they could do carers need all this distruption in their lives, when they have enough to cope with looking after an adult with LD?

mysterywoman10

Confuseddot wrote: »

Mysterywoman can you maybe provide the link to the document you are refering I have searched this thread and can't seem to find it.

Is it talking about the same survey that is mentioned in Dunroamin post ?

Just a bit confused for a change

do you mean this one?

http://www.dwp.gov.uk/docs/lha-eia-nov10.pdf