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andrewjohn1317

Hi
This is a great board, I'm always looking for ways to make extra money and now loads of ideas are in one place! Thanks

oneflewover

Ghost_2005 wrote: »

What currency do they pay in? Lionbridge used to pay around £10 an hour 5 yrs ago, but I imagine it's more like £7/hr now due to the decline of the Euro.

I'd say that was less than MW given there is a degree of unpaid work involved in the job.

Still, all these kind of jobs, LB/LF/Appen etc. are reasonably well paid for home working jobs.

LF are based in America, so the currency conversion is between $ and £. It's not far off your first figure mentioned.

kratosthegreat

caitchbee wrote: »

The UK MW is £6.50. Depends how you define "not much" but I would say that LF pays quite a bit above the MW.

I know and I know what LF pay and I still consider that not much.

There are two major things to take into account when comparing to typical jobs:

1) You are hanging around in periods of NRT. To get the equivalent of say, 25 hours a week, you have to do a ridiculous amount of waiting to be ready to snap up work before it disappears. You're not getting paid for these periods. Yeah maybe you can do things around the house but it's not exactly leisure time, because you don't know when it will end. To get 40 hours per week, you pretty much have to be glued to a laptop for way, way more than 40 hours.

2) You are only paid while you are working. Think about an office job where you go for a coffee, browse the internet for a bit, chat with colleagues and you still get paid. They have a productivity of what, 70%? LF get a productivity of 100% from their workers.

The absolute amount is a bit above MW. The relative amount, you could argue is even less than MW. LF/Appen/Lionbridge are still very good opportunities, I just think the pay rate is deceptive and workers are too quick to accept is as good. Unless you have a partner or other source of income, it's not liveable. It also hasn't risen since the company started.

Toxicity

It's plenty enough above minimum wage.

There are tools available that alert you when work pops up, so no need to be glued anywhere. Plus work drops at the same times most days so it doesn't take long to figure out the best times to be online.

I earn more than enough every month and I don't even need to get dressed to do it. No childcare costs, no bus/train ticket costs, no car/petrol costs, no need to keep purchasing work clothes, no spending extra money on lunches/coffee etc during breaks.

It's a fabulous job.

kratosthegreat

Toxicity wrote: »

It's plenty enough above minimum wage.

There are tools available that alert you when work pops up, so no need to be glued anywhere. Plus work drops at the same times most days so it doesn't take long to figure out the best times to be online.

I earn more than enough every month and I don't even need to get dressed to do it. No childcare costs, no bus/train ticket costs, no car/petrol costs, no need to keep purchasing work clothes, no spending extra money on lunches/coffee etc during breaks.

It's a fabulous job.

No wage progression, no social interaction, no pension, no benefits, no security, no bonuses, little to no value in the eyes of mortgage providers/credit companies...

And purchasing work clothes/ buying coffee and lunches is enjoyable anyway.

It's decent supplementary income, hardly fabulous, you don't need to try to convince me, I've done it.

Toxicity

There's security if you're good at the job. The contracts that are regularly extended are quite a lot better than all these zero hour contracts people are forced to deal with nowadays.

So nobody self-employed owns their own home or can be accepted for credit?

The money that dropped into my bank account a week ago after a particularly good month certainly was fabulous and I can assure you was far sight more than I would get working any NMW job for 40 hours a week and that's ignoring all the extra expenses of a 'proper' job.

Lastly, I'm not trying to convince you of anything, I just think you are being overly critical of a genuine work at home opportunity that does actually pay well and I would hate for anyone to be put off by your comments. Is it a job for life? no - though there are people that have been doing it for many years. Is it a great way to earn money? yes.

Ghost_2005

It's a well paid work from home job. You can't really compare it to a 'real world' job because there are so many differences - some pros and some cons. It certainly suits some people (it suited me for a while). Those it doesn't suit probably look for something else pretty quickly.

In absolute terms, I think the pay is poor. Being subject to currency fluctuations is also an added complication. At Lionbridge there has been effectively a 30-40% pay cut in the last 5 or 6 years.

kratosthegreat

Toxicity wrote: »

There's security if you're good at the job. The contracts that are regularly extended are quite a lot better than all these zero hour contracts people are forced to deal with nowadays.

So nobody self-employed owns their own home or can be accepted for credit?

The money that dropped into my bank account a week ago after a particularly good month certainly was fabulous and I can assure you was far sight more than I would get working any NMW job for 40 hours a week and that's ignoring all the extra expenses of a 'proper' job.

Lastly, I'm not trying to convince you of anything, I just think you are being overly critical of a genuine work at home opportunity that does actually pay well and I would hate for anyone to be put off by your comments. Is it a job for life? no - though there are people that have been doing it for many years. Is it a great way to earn money? yes.

You need 2 years audited accounts to be taken seriously by mortgage companies and it's harder with credit and car finance companies if you don't have it too. I disagree, the security is very bad, you can be blocked from work without any notice and it happens to experienced raters.

Anyway my original point was the pay was just OK and I stand by that.

Rema

do UK based leapforce contractors have to provide Tax info or pass through secuirity checks before being accepted?
As all the info I gathered about the job was from US-based contractors who had to provide their social secuirity numbers and stuff!

kratosthegreat

Ghost_2005 wrote: »

It's a well paid work from home job. You can't really compare it to a 'real world' job because there are so many differences - some pros and some cons. It certainly suits some people (it suited me for a while). Those it doesn't suit probably look for something else pretty quickly.

In absolute terms, I think the pay is poor. Being subject to currency fluctuations is also an added complication. At Lionbridge there has been effectively a 30-40% pay cut in the last 5 or 6 years.

You contradicted yourself here. I think in absolute terms the pay is OK, it is a fair amount above the living wage. I think you meant in relative terms the pay is poor; taking into account things such as currency fluctuations and the things I previously mentioned would be relative terms.

However, I disagree that it is poor, even in relative terms. As I have said before, I think it is just OK. Aside from running a successful Internet business, it is one of the better online opportunities. I just think these Search Engine Evaluation companies get a lot from raters for what they pay and raters aren't adequately compensated for the lack of security, irregular hours, waiting for work etc.