Panorama disability scam

ILW

Surely if you going thru ATOS you are already seriously ill? In many cases suffering cancers etc.

mazza111

ILW wrote: »

Surely if you going thru ATOS you are already seriously ill? In many cases suffering cancers etc.

No. No matter what you're off sick with, after 13 weeks you will be assessed by ATOS.

ILW

mazza111 wrote: »

No. No matter what you're off sick with, after 13 weeks you will be assessed by ATOS.

So not comparable to the average member of the population. 13 weeks off needs to be pretty serious.

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A truly shocking programme

nogginthenog

ILW wrote: »

Surely if you going thru ATOS you are already seriously ill? In many cases suffering cancers etc.

Not if you believe many on this forum or on DT forum. albeit many people come on here and other boards just to cause trouble.

bestpud

LunaLady wrote: »

I agree, however I wanted to put the other side of the argument across, that not everyone seeking a label does it for financial gain.

Its taken us 6 years of appointments, therapy and treatments and we are still nowhere nearer a 'label' for my son.

DLA for a child is the latest get around for the upcoming universal credit rules!

Just in the last couple of weeks I have seen a parent suggest temporarily exacerbating a child's condition in order to get what is needed from a medical for DLA!

I've also known someone put off things that may help their child until after they have had an assessment. I'm not talking treatments as such, rather things like behavioural techniques and supplements that may help, but still...

I am sure claims rose when they lowered the qualifying child age for income support and I am sure they will continue to rise as more people catch on to universal credit and look for ways of reducing the conditions that will be placed on them.

It is better still to claim for a child because PIP isn't being introduced for children anytime in the near future.

The people who lose out most, as always, are those who are genuinely entitled to the help!

speedfreek1000

Morglin wrote: »

Enlightening wasn't it?


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/ltb--lying-thieving-bs-bbc-documentary-lifts-the-lid-on-offensive-code-used-to-describe-disabled-and-jobless-8469818.html

Lin :wall:

I find the narrative of this article somewhat disturbing.

Maybe it's just me being paranoid but it's not so much that the WP is failing but that disabled people are being parked and allowed not to attend premises that comes out there.

With the dysfunction that is the WCA the only way a lot of disabled are going to survive the WP is by exactly those methods.

Is this the start of a campaign backing the refusal of telephone interview adjustments and the insistence of mandatory attendance for all at WP premises.

We've seen it before with the DWP when common sense is replaced by a policy of strict enforcement no matter what. Painting whole groups with the failing of a few and thus impacting quite negatively some of the most vunerable in society.

mazza111

ILW wrote: »

So not comparable to the average member of the population. 13 weeks off needs to be pretty serious.

Depends on your point of view tbh. I have arthritis and a few trapped nerves in several places. Main one being on the top of my spine which gives me very limited movement of my left arm, shoulder and hand. I am in WRAG. But I wouldn't count my condition as serious.. IYKWIM. Guess I think of serious as needing urgent medical attention.

So think it's a matter of what an individual thinks of as serious.

I'm not knocking it btw, I believe anyone on sickness benefits should have some sort of assessment. But is the WCA fit for purpose? No. Should this crowd of cowboys be doing it? IMHO NO! Definitely not.