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Panorama disability scam
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What would you prefer? That they spent their lives in institutions or hospitals? Dont you think this would cost the tax payer more?
I don't think anyone's talking about the sort of children who would once have been institutionalised but those whose parents are eager to have a disabled label attached for conditions that would have once been considered simply character traits.0 -
It isnt just about the financial benefits though.
If a child doesnt have a 'label', but they will need long term care and assistance, they can find it extremely difficult to move onto adult social care. In our area without that 'label' you cannot access certain services, such as OT and an advanced level of inclusion support.
Our LA has an 'autism' team, and a 'learning disabilities' team, but it doesnt have a 'something wrong but we dont have a clue what it is team'. If parents dont push for that label, then the child can suffer greatly.
Also, as is said many, many times on this board, it isnt about the diagnosis, its about the need.
Then parents can seek out the "label" without claiming the benefit - the two are not synonymous.0 -
Then parents can seek out the "label" without claiming the benefit - the two are not synonymous.
I agree, however I wanted to put the other side of the argument across, that not everyone seeking a label does it for financial gain.
Its taken us 6 years of appointments, therapy and treatments and we are still nowhere nearer a 'label' for my son.SPC #1813
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I agree, however I wanted to put the other side of the argument across, that not everyone seeking a label does it for financial gain.
Its taken us 6 years of appointments, therapy and treatments and we are still nowhere nearer a 'label' for my son.
Is it possible he is just a little different? Rather than having a medical condition.0 -
the academics just have to come out of their ivory towers for a few hours and see that a single person not working claiming JSA get £70ish a week, however if they apply for sickness benefits the money gets substantially higher. They don't have to sign on, or bother looking for work, it's not rocket science.Only half of all people with a disability are in work. Panorama investigates if one of the government's most ambitious welfare reforms, costing billions of pounds, can solve the problem of disability unemployment. Reporter Sam Poling reveals the private companies who are getting rich from the new reforms despite only being able to get a small fraction of disabled people back to work, and speaks to the charities who feel the most vulnerable in our society are being failed
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01qgk9h
Apparently, the UK is the sick man of Europe with a much higher level of sickness/disability benefits than many other countries - anyone know why this is? The city I currently live in has sickness/disability rates high above the UK average and academics still don't understand why it is so.0 -
But why is the money substantially higher? Disabled people's electric and gas cost the same as anyone else's, food costs the same, taxes are the same. I can see an argument for a supplementary payment to cover extras if they need taxis but that's what DLA is for. My dad was on incapacity and he said it was far more than was needed. So why the big gap? I know a guy who is on incapacity and dla for mental health problems and he goes drinking three or four times a week and stuffs hundreds in fruit machines. I also know of several other people on incapacity who also go drinking every day. So should the amounts given vary based on need and I don't mean give it as money. If someone needs home care then the home care should be paid for by the benefits office not given as cash in hand as I know of someone who says he is supposed to use DLA for home care and doesn't (he's the guy I mentioned above on the fruit machines). Surely giving all money cash in hand and trusting someone to pay for what they need out of it is asking for trouble.zoominatorone wrote: »the academics just have to come out of their ivory towers for a few hours and see that a single person not working claiming JSA get £70ish a week, however if they apply for sickness benefits the money gets substantially higher. They don't have to sign on, or bother looking for work, it's not rocket science.0 -
Only half of all people with a disability are in work. Panorama investigates if one of the government's most ambitious welfare reforms, costing billions of pounds, can solve the problem of disability unemployment. Reporter Sam Poling reveals the private companies who are getting rich from the new reforms despite only being able to get a small fraction of disabled people back to work, and speaks to the charities who feel the most vulnerable in our society are being failed
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01qgk9h
Apparently, the UK is the sick man of Europe with a much higher level of sickness/disability benefits than many other countries - anyone know why this is? The city I currently live in has sickness/disability rates high above the UK average and academics still don't understand why it is so.
Because the UK has had Deregulation for some time.
Many people in the UK work longer hours and forgo lunch breaks compared with the Euro Mainland.
Mental illness is the reason for well over 65% of Esa & DLA claims many due to the above.
The Uk in the past has been a industrial powerhouse, the effects of which are now being felt by the retired workforce.
The uk has a unique climate that is not conducive to good health.
UK housing is some of the poorest in Europe, esp when compaired with the large euro mainland countries. UK Hypothermia rates are amongst the highes in Europe.
The UK has a shopping and credit card culture, which means many people can get into debt causing stress.and anxiety.
For instance German Credid cards are autmatically paid in full at the end of each month by the persons bank.
The UK has a fast food culture.
I could go on but i am too sore.Child of a Fighting Race.0 -
nogginthenog wrote: »Because the UK has had Deregulation for some time.
Many people in the UK work longer hours and forgo lunch breaks compared with the Euro Mainland.
Mental illness is the reason for well over 65% of Esa & DLA claims many due to the above.
The Uk in the past has been a industrial powerhouse, the effects of which are now being felt by the retired workforce.
The uk has a unique climate that is not conducive to good health.
UK housing is some of the poorest in Europe, esp when compaired with the large euro mainland countries. UK Hypothermia rates are amongst the highes in Europe.
The UK has a shopping and credit card culture, which means many people can get into debt causing stress.and anxiety.
For instance German Credid cards are autmatically paid in full at the end of each month by the persons bank.
The UK has a fast food culture.
I could go on but i am too sore.
Or maybe many of us are just spoilt. If we don't wake up in the morning feeling happy and cheerful, we assume that a trip to the doctor in in order.0
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