Panorama disability scam

Morglin

Enlightening wasn't it?


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/ltb--lying-thieving-bs-bbc-documentary-lifts-the-lid-on-offensive-code-used-to-describe-disabled-and-jobless-8469818.html

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roddydogs

I didnt quite understand, surely you find work for the easiest ones to place first?. How else can you do it?

iluvmarmite

leveller2911 wrote: »

Indeed, he glared at her.........Still have no idea if he was genuine or just swinging the lead.........Personally I think most people suffer from anxiety and depression,I know I do but its how you deal with it.

When he was explaining to the interviewer what his problems are, how angry and violent he gets when stressed etc he seemed ok, swaying around a bit maybe, but then the interviewer said he didn't seem to violent now and being interviewed by her with a camera crew must be stressful for anyone (or words to that affect) he then suddenly changed, eyes widening, moving around in a scary way, that made me think that he was maybe exaggerating his illness.

He seemed perfectly at ease outside with his camera so maybe a job outside, gardener perhaps, where he can be on his own and get on with things, he likes photography so maybe he could set up his own business.

iluvmarmite

roddydogs wrote: »

I didnt quite understand, surely you find work for the easiest ones to place first?. How else can you do it?

Yes but they don't bother even looking for work for the disabled, or spending time helping them get over their barriers or talking through things with them to help them get into the job market because the longer a disabled person is on their books the more money they get.

A person on JSA is not really a money maker compared to a person on ESA so it's not a case of finding work first for the easiest ones it's a case of finding work first for those who bring in the least amount of dosh!

seven-day-weekend

scootw1 wrote: »

He looked fine when he was taking the pictures. Surely if he can do that he could do freelance photography?

I have not seen the programme but would like to say this. Taking photos is only part of being a photographer. You have to market your work, deal with clients, keep to deadlines, have work of an acceptable standard, deal with accounts and taxes.....to somebody suffering from anxiety these things may be nigh on impossible.

Quite often people with anxiety can do things, but would not be able to carry them out as a job.

Hope this helsp.

roddydogs

iluvmarmite wrote: »

Yes but they don't bother even looking for work for the disabled, or spending time helping them get over their barriers or talking through things with them to help them get into the job market because the longer a disabled person is on their books the more money they get.

A person on JSA is not really a money maker compared to a person on ESA so it's not a case of finding work first for the easiest ones it's a case of finding work first for those who bring in the least amount of dosh!

But how do they make any money if they dont find the person a job?

LunaLady

They dont, and thats the point,

When the work programme was set up, they hoped that by paying more for a client who had a disability to be placed in work, that it would be more attractive to the companies running them so they would work harder.

Unfortunately this isnt the case, instead they are placing those that are easier.

LunaLady

seven-day-weekend wrote: »

I have not seen the programme but would like to say this. Taking photos is only part of being a photographer. You have to market your work, deal with clients, keep to deadlines, have work of an acceptable standard, deal with accounts and taxes.....to somebody suffering from anxiety these things may be nigh on impossible.

Quite often people with anxiety can do things, but would not be able to carry them out as a job.

Hope this helsp.

I have to say I agree. While he might be good at taking the photographs, what would happen if a client were to complain about their photos, or you had a demanding client. Photography also involves being in crowded social situations which could be stressful.

Dunroamin

rogerblack wrote: »

Primarily because the DWP are spinning their !!!!!! off trying to obscure the figures.
http://touchstoneblog.org.uk/2011/08/why-are-there-more-dla-claimants/ may be informative.

In short - the population is getting older, so disabilites of age are becoming more common as a fraction of the whole population.
The population is growing, and some immigrants are entitled to benefits due to working in the UK, or other factors.

An increasing number of child claims are happening, leading to an increase of claims as these people move into working age.

All EU countries are having to deal with ageing populations, not just the UK, so the figures should be similar.

If the UK has increasing claims for children, perhaps we should ask ourselves why we have made it so financially beneficial for parents to want to put a label on their child?

ILW

It does appear that in the UK, if you actually do not like your job a doctor will diagnose you with stress and anxiety for a few months and then when the sick pay runs out you go for the benefits. Life is anxious and stressful and people should get used to it.