Suspended During Grievance

bubblegum1985

I'm a little confused if tomorrow is about the grievance ie workload or about your suspension?

My advice (and I am no legal mind or employment specialist) is to be humble, honest and accepting.

Humble by saying you know you did wrong, honest in saying I did say things I shouldn't have in the heat of the moment and you are learning lessons from in and accept the consequences and also accept that there are things like the CD attitude you can't change.

zzzLazyDaisy

kelly_borntoshop wrote: »

job interview went well i think, i hear tomorrow afternoon - what to do now??

Well I think they are giving you very clear signals that they think you have seriously crossed a line.

What do you do now? The short answer is

"go to the grievance meeting tomorrow, keep calm, don't bad mouth the CD, or refer to the potential disciplinary, and give it your best shot at getting the Factory Manager on your side. But now is probably not a good time to be making demands about your workload"

I did actually type a longer answer, but deleted it as it will only confuse things at this stage.

I have to say that there may be no coming back from the threat to wipe the work. That is industrial sabotage, and makes you a potential threat to the company. You have already proved yourself to be something of a loose canon, so this could well be the final straw. But you have options about how you approach this, and one possible option to consider might be a 'mutual termination' with an agreed reference.

But please do not mention that, or the disciplinary tomorrow, because done wrong it will blow up in your face. So I suggest that you play the long game, go to the meeting and come back here afterwards, and we can look at this again with you.

EDIT - justanopinion and bubblegum have also given you good advice.

One final point - if you get the other job before you go to the grievance hearing AND they don't want a reference from this employer, AND you are confident that you will never need a reference from this employer (that's a big ??) then you might choose not to take things any further with your current employer.

kelly_borntoshop

i am equally confused. but this is how i think it went.

i resigned in heat.

went back to try and sort it out.

got suspended.

launched my grievance which stated breach of contract, trust and confidence, duty of care and discrimination.

thier grievance hearing letter stated breach of contract, duty of care. (no discrimination? even though i raised it? to be fair they did pay me for the day so i guess its no longer relevant.)

today i confirm i will be at the grievance meeting alone tomorrow. then i get a suspension letter hand delivered saying there may be a hearing but it is being dealt with seperately. i think that hearing is with the CD.

kelly_borntoshop

ok daisy, got you. i thought that might be the nail in my coffin - though i didnt actaully do it i can see why. yes they dont want me there and i dont want to be there either.

so should i just not mention the workload at all?

zzzLazyDaisy

kelly_borntoshop wrote: »

today i confirm i will be at the grievance meeting alone tomorrow. then i get a suspension letter hand delivered saying there may be a hearing but it is being dealt with seperately. i think that hearing is with the CD.

If the disciplinary hearing is with the CD then they will be shooting themselves in the foot because she cannot be impartial if she is considering allegations against herself. But that is their problem and it is NOT for you to point it out to them. You need to rein yourself in and not advise them how to do things - it is not in your interests.

First things first = go to the grievance, don't mention the disciplinary as it is a separate matter, come back when you are done.

bubblegum1985

I wouldn't mention workload unless they do. They will lead the meeting and I think the best thing to do is go with their agenda. At some point they will mention the work load and I would suggest you ask for an additional meeting to discuss that as you think it will take some time.

Thinking about it though they will need to decide if they are going to sack you before they talk about workload so you need to confirm if your job still exists before talking about that.

zzzLazyDaisy

kelly_borntoshop wrote: »

ok daisy, got you. i thought that might be the nail in my coffin - though i didnt actaully do it i can see why. yes they dont want me there and i dont want to be there either.

so should i just not mention the workload at all?

You might want to say something very mild and gentle, like you have been struggling with the workload and you would appreciate some guidance with this to help you develop better time management skills.

(I appreciate this isn't really how you view things, but for the moment I suggest that you do your best to keep things as pleasant as possible. You catch more flies with honey than vinegar!)

kelly_borntoshop

The job interview went well today (i felt i underdelivered but my confidence is shot atm i am not well). he said he would email me or call me tomorrow afternoon as he is out in the morning which tells me he knows his decision (wish i did!).

my hearing is at 2pm.

the new job if i get it is starting at the beginning of march, with a couple of days shadowing before hand - this could leave it open to him requesting references. I did submit a written reference from a more previous employer but he still may want one from my current job. he asked a hand full of questions which were uncomfortable, i said there was no room for growth. took all whats left of me not to cry

kelly_borntoshop

i will still be suspended still tomorrow anyway i guess - if this is being investigated?

kelly_borntoshop

i am guessing industrial sabotage is gross misconduct?