Social services onto me about not having child in nursery! Advice needed

jayII

johnnyl wrote: »

I need evidence that some teachers are straight from college with no other life skills? Are you for real.

What qualifies you (I don't mean academic qualifications) to judge and generalise about people's life skills?

Some people have fabulous life and people skills at 18, let alone 22. Other perfectly able but unmotivated 50 year olds have very poor life skills.

I'd say that a good proportion of the people who get through teacher training are at least well-motivated and interested in learning, which bodes fairly well for their ability to make use of opportunities to develop their personal life skills.

I know which of the above I'd rather have teaching my children.

jayII

johnnyl wrote: »

yes its very bizzare not being a sheep blindly plodding along. You are politicians dream, you receive and inwardly digest any old !!!! that is thrown at you. Nanny knows best etc....some of us are intelligent enough to challenge things like this.

If actually reading/listening to and considering the points people make, before I respond, makes me a sheep, then you must be right.


Would it be better if I simply repeated 'the state is wrong and parents must be right' rhetoric ad infinitum? Regardless of the actual experiences people share in a thread, as you appear to do?

It does say rather a lot when someone is unable to explain their point without resorting to foul language.

In some ways, I wish I were just being a sheep. Sadly, most of the comments I have made on this thread come from from actual situations I have experienced through my work. I've worked with children and parents in a wide variety of roles, over many years, so I'm not biased towards either side, just (very sadly) realistic.

nickyhutch

Zziggi wrote: »

I remain open minded about HE. I can see very big advantages but also disadvantages. I can also see how it might suit some families but not others.

Me too. I can't speak for everywhere, but where I live and work there are 3 types of home edding:

the parents who do it really well, use support services, interact with other home edders and use group teaching etc.

the parents who just can't manage/be bothered with the early stats/homework/rules and regulations like getting kids to school on time and wearing a uniform

the Y10 and Y11 kids who have been effectively booted out of school because they aren't attending and sanctions aren't working, and their poor attendance/low attainment will have a detrimental effect on the school's exam figures.

shirlgirl2004

Person_one wrote: »

I'm interested.

Many parents who home school make similar claims about how exceptional their children are, how do their educational outcomes compare (on average) with children who go to school?

There are no statistics gathered on this.

I don't claim my children are above average ability, just that they are academically advanced for their ages. I'm sure there are plenty of other children that could achieve as good or better if given the same environment.

RichardD1970

shirlgirl2004 wrote: »

There are no statistics gathered on this.

I don't claim my children are above average ability, just that they are academically advanced for their ages. I'm sure there are plenty of other children that could achieve as good or better if given the same environment.

Ohhhh, so it's not the kids who are exceptional, it's their teacher!

jayII

shirlgirl2004 wrote: »

There are no statistics gathered on this.

I don't claim my children are above average ability, just that they are academically advanced for their ages. I'm sure there are plenty of other children that could achieve as good or better if given the same environment.

That is a more logical explaination, I suspect you are correct. Most children would do better with a higher adult:child ratio.

I am also open minded about HE, though I wonder a lot about the social limitations of it. HE wasn't right for us and our children, but we didn't like mainstream schooling for many of the reasons HEd advocates don't like it. We dealt with it by working like troupers to fund our children's places at fee paying schools. It's definitely horses for courses.

snozberry

johnnyl wrote: »

I need evidence that some teachers are straight from college with no other life skills? Are you for real.

A question requires a question mark.

shirlgirl2004

snozberry wrote: »

A question requires a question mark.

Unless it's rhetorical.

daisiegg

shirlgirl2004 wrote: »

Unless it's rhetorical.

Rhetorical questions still need question marks.

coolcait

shirlgirl2004 wrote: »

Unless it's rhetorical.

A rhetorical question needs a question mark.

It doesn't need a reply.