Social services onto me about not having child in nursery! Advice needed

fluffnutter

concerned43 wrote: »

Have you see this

http://www.aims.org.uk/Journal/Vol16No3/HealthVisitors.htm

It's nearly nine years old and it's written by an organisation who can hardly be deemed non-biased.

I've just had a baby. HVs do NOT visit uninvited! In fact, it's difficult to get them to visit at all, even if you want them to! I have had one home visit and no more are scheduled. If I want any more I'll have to make a case for a home visit - this won't automatically be granted. At about a year I'll be invited to take my baby to a clinic for his assessment. Similarly I had the opportunity to take my baby to clinic when he was 10 days old; I chose the home visit because it's easier for me and because, understandably, the HV feels she can get a better feel for how well I'm coping if she sees me in my own home.

This article is a dangerous piece of emotive nonsense, IMO, that implies, in fact it states, that HVs arrive uninvited and unbidden even before you've had a baby, fgs, and report you if you don't invite them in for tea and cake. Bollox.

Sambucus_Nigra

Person_one wrote: »

That's a no then.

Child protection referrals aren't necessarily done based on ticking boxes, because if they were then some at risk children would be missed because they didn't tick the exact boxes.

Its not rigid, there aren't strict rules. Every job I've had as an adult has had an element of child protection/safeguarding and in all those years what's always been stressed is that its better to be safe than sorry. If you feel at all that there's a possibility of the child being at risk then you refer and let the experts investigate further.

It doesn't do any harm for a few good parents to have visits from social services, but it can do a terrible amount of harm to ignore your instincts and your worries because you don't want to upset the parents or don't think you've got enough 'hard evidence'.

Or any evidence.

Person_one

Sambucus_Nigra wrote: »

Or any evidence.

Its not the job of the referrer to investigate, that's what social services do.

If they are satisfied that everything's ok then that's great news, everybody's happy!

People don't generally make referrals for the fun of it or because they want to annoy the parents.

jetplane

concerned43 wrote: »

Just read this interesting post and not surprised by some of the comments, people who are implying all sorts of horrible things about the poster and her circumstances. For what it's worth, I have experience both privately and in my role within cab, many families being targeted by ss for matters that do no merit their time and energy, I understand the posters indignation and upset, not just on the ss visit but also on the condemnation by some posters on here.
It is not unknown for 'professionals'' who are challenged to raise an issue with ss, this is know in cab as covering ones back!
I myself complained about two so called professionals and found myself at the end of a child protection investigation, ss said from the start that they did not believe there were any issues and apologised and left closing the case as 'no case to answer'! So I believe that this is. case of a hw being scared that being asked to discharge her services would not go down well with her bosses who may ask her some awkward question about the service she was providing and so instead she invents a smoke screen to detract from her and put the spot light on the parents. Seen this loads of time but thankfully the ss have seen through this and make a brief visit and then close the case.
It's not all bad though as the parents now have evidence of malicious referral in order to,take legal action if they wish.
So, I believe you and I believe you know why this has came about and I know you will get through it and enjoy your lovely family and not let this so called professional to ruin your life.
Wishing you well in whatever you decide is best for your children x

concerned43 wrote: »

Have you see this

http://www.aims.org.uk/Journal/Vol16No3/HealthVisitors.htm

I thought CAB workers were supposed to be non judgemental, unbiased and based their advice on facts?

Sambucus_Nigra

Person_one wrote: »

Its not the job of the referrer to investigate, that's what social services do.

If they are satisfied that everything's ok then that's great news, everybody's happy!

People don't generally make referrals for the fun of it or because they want to annoy the parents.

Really, don't they? Ever?

I thought that was the whole point of this thread.

concerned43

Person_one wrote: »

Its not the job of the referrer to investigate, that's what social services do.

If they are satisfied that everything's ok then that's great news, everybody's happy!

People don't generally make referrals for the fun of it or because they want to annoy the parents.

Show me the evidence of what you claim

Person_one

concerned43 wrote: »

Show me the evidence of what you claim

Evidence of what exactly? That people don't refer maliciously for the most part? How on earth would that evidence ever be gathered?

concerned43

Person_one wrote: »

Evidence of what exactly? That people don't refer maliciously for the most part? How on earth would that evidence ever be gathered?

Then how would you know that this does not happen?

concerned43

jetplane wrote: »

I thought CAB workers were supposed to be non judgemental, unbiased and based their advice on facts?

I am not here as a cab representative and I know this sort of malicious treatment goes on. But it funny how given all we have read that it's the cab person to remain unbiased, factual etc but the same expectations are not extended to the hw or social services!

Person_one

concerned43 wrote: »

Then how would you know that this does not happen?

Because it just doesn't, very very rarely anyway.

What would be the motivation? Health visitors and the like are well used to parents and patients being hostile or uncooperative or telling them to s0d off. A referral is also extra paperwork, and they certainly don't do that for the joy of it!