Immigrants & Benefits

Linda_D_2

Graham_Devon wrote: »

Read the other thread. He fears for his old age if immigrants are not there to slave away.

He's stated outright, he doesn't want his life to deteriorate.

As always, this is the reason for all the rubbish he has posted on this thread and other threads. It always comes down to purely selfish reasons and money, what will benefit him the most. You have to feel sorry for him:(

hethmar

On tv news this evening, crisis in maternity hospitals with some places - including the now infamous Boston having a 55% increase in births - due to immigrant mothers.

BertieUK

StevieJ wrote: »

We are used to people not integrating and speaking English when they visit our city, we are next to Wales Just one point, the Poles think they are in Central Europe not the East.

Under a Tudor law it is supposedly illegal for Welshmen to enter your city after nightfall – and apparently legal to shoot them with a bow and arrow within the city walls there after midnight?

d123

Graham_Devon wrote: »

If it's the one I watched, which sounds extremely similar, it was because he had an illegal tyre. He would have been fined on the spot. However, the company came out and replaced it there and then, and he wasn't fined.

They were given the option whether to deal with it there and then, or face a fine and points there and then, which would be the same for everyone, british, polish, regardless.

He got a fine for the mobile phone, with a producer.

No, not the same one then, it was only on quite recently but might even have been a repeat as it was late one night.

They even commented that one of the office secretaries paid the £60 fine for the mobile phone using a personal card as the boss was out with the company CC. The copper even commented further that he considered prosecuting the office as well as the Polish driver admitted it was his office that had phoned him for the call he was caught on.

The entire "pay the fine or we seize the vehicle" was explained by the cop as because he was Polish they couldn't verify his licence and address (I found that strange, he was working for a UK company so obviously living here, they should have been able to find a record of his address).

Once the fine was paid the driver drove off, no replacement tyres involved .

N1AK

Graham_Devon wrote: »

Yes. I didn't realise immigrants could claim benefits from the day they arrive here.

Governments cannot discriminate against nationals from another EU nation. That means that if I moved to Germany I could claim whatever an equivalent German is entitled to; if the German moved here it would be the same.

The solution isn't to leave Europe but reform our benefit system so that it isn't seen as a potential lifestyle decision by some UK nationals or nationals of other European nations.

PaulF81

N1AK wrote: »

Governments cannot discriminate against nationals from another EU nation. That means that if I moved to Germany I could claim whatever an equivalent German is entitled to; if the German moved here it would be the same.

The solution isn't to leave Europe but reform our benefit system so that it isn't seen as a potential lifestyle decision by some UK nationals or nationals of other European nations.

That may well be policy, the reality however is completely different.

N1AK

PaulF81 wrote: »

That may well be policy, the reality however is completely different.

No it isn't; what you imagine based on no real world experience and a few sensationalised stories from over-sized toilet paper suppliers masquerading as 'newspapers' isn't reality

There will certainly be examples to the contrary but that most certainly is the normal way of things. Other nations very often have benefit structures etc that are more discriminating and thus are harder to claim but that is also true for their own citizens. Other nations also have less generous systems and/or do not cover everything we do, but again that is true for anyone including their own citizens.

BertieUK

Could our Government not negotiate with the EU a measure that would restrict the numbers of immigrants entering our country to those who only had jobs to go to or at least had a sponser. Because we are going to have to do something positive very soon otherwise we will be run completely by the rules of the EU and then we could say goodby to Britain and call it by another name.

grizzly1911

BertieUK wrote: »

Could our Government not negotiate with the EU a measure that would restrict the numbers of immigrants entering our country to those who only had jobs to go to or at least had a sponser. Because we are going to have to do something positive very soon otherwise we will be run completely by the rules of the EU and then we could say goodby to Britain and call it by another name.

I am not in favour of what the EU has become to stand for but I do some times wonder if we wouldn't be better just throwing in the towel and getting rid of a tier of our own bureaucracy. Get rid of the government and introduce some accountatnts. We are essentialy ruled by them, we appear to be financially tied to them by a big elastic band, we are powerless to stop things like mass immigration, we can't afford our own armed forces.

We are in slow decline anyway in a leaky bathtub at least jumping on to a bigger raft would give us more "time" and cushion the fall.:think:

pamsdish

Have not read allthe posts, but I can tell you when I was living and working in Eire, paying PRSI,(nat ins equivelant) I was told at dentists I could have reduced price dental work, as I was paying PRSI. 3 months later, reams through the post ,you have to pay 5 years to claim anything,I had been paying in 4 1/2 years approx, and I owed dentist 20 euro.