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Immigrants & Benefits
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grizzly1911 wrote: »What is the job situation like up in the NE?
Is there a lot of seasonal ebbs and flows? Is there an attraction to be there, job wise?
IMO it tends to be where you get concentrations that things are exacerbated and there is a disproportionate impact, in rural areas, small towns perhaps. Infrastructure and services being more easily overwhelmed?
Im not sure what percentage of people are unemployed. Everyone I know works or is retiredNeeding to lose weight start date 26 December 2011 current loss 60 pound Down. Lots more to go to get into my size 6 jeans0 -
The_White_Horse wrote: »but we are all free to go to Poland and soon, Bulgaria and Romania. Isn't that exciting. I for one can't wait. All my friends are buzzing with excitement about this. Not.
Its all very well having a deal like this where there is actually a point to it - ie New Yorkers wanting to come to London, Londoners to LA, or Sydney or similar. But there is no point with Bulgaria because no one (or an incredibly small percentage of Brits) wants to go there. Yet a load of them want to come here.
Pointless trash.
This is a god point. Whenever you argue against mass immigration there is always somebody that will tell you you have the right to go and work anywhere in Europe.
The reality is that large amounts of unskilled workers head in this direction which is all one way traffic.
Why would an English unskilled worker emigrate to Poland for example to earn only a fraction of what he/she can here?
If an individual were to obtain a skilled/professional job somewhere in Europe, then they wouldn't need the EU to do that, it is highly likely that they would be able to emigrate on a points based system such as you have in Australia.0 -
This is a god point. Whenever you argue against mass immigration there is always somebody that will tell you you have the right to go and work anywhere in Europe.
The reality is that large amounts of unskilled workers head in this direction which is all one way traffic.
Why would an English unskilled worker emigrate to Poland for example to earn only a fraction of what he/she can here?
If an individual were to obtain a skilled/professional job somewhere in Europe, then they wouldn't need the EU to do that, it is highly likely that they would be able to emigrate on a points based system such as you have in Australia.
In other countries they expect you to speak the language, work for a living and support yourself, fit in and integrate, and abide by the legal and cultural conventions of the nation in which you find yourself.
In the UK none of that applies because the lunatics have taken over the asylum.No-one would remember the Good Samaritan if he'd only had good intentions. He had money as well.
The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money.
Margaret Thatcher0 -
HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »From posts 351 and 192.
NIESR research.
"Perhaps surprisingly," their economists said, "the interaction between migrant inflows and GDP emerges as positive, indicating that during periods of lower growth, migrant inflows are associated with ... slower [dole] claimant growth than would otherwise have occurred
You probably should have read the whole article.
Particularly the bit around credit cards funding the lifestyle, and the benefits only covering the minimum payments on the credit cards..:)
Maybe you should have read the whole article. It says she uses her pay to cover the minimum payments. She works less than 16 hours a week. Her benefits cover everything else. How is she boosting the UK economy apart from spending her benefit money?
However, this also disputes your claim that people can receive the same benefits abroad. She has stated that she would receive nowhere near this amount in her native Lithuania.
I wonder if Germany/Sweden has stories like this in its newspapers about how foreigners are amazed by the benefits they receive.:think:The forest would be very silent if no birds sang except for the birds that sang the best0 -
Maybe you should have read the whole article. It says she uses her pay to cover the minimum payments. She works less than 16 hours a week. Her benefits cover everything else. How is she boosting the UK economy apart from spending her benefit money?
I also wonder how the possible eventual write off of the credit card debt will help the economy?"If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....
"big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham0 -
I wonder if Germany/Sweden has stories like this in its newspapers about how foreigners are amazed by the benefits they receive.:think:
They don't openly have these things in their newspapers but they do have discussions like this.
All Western European countries have issues with immigrants whether they come from the Eastern part of the EU or outside it particularly certain ethnic groups some of whom are mentioned here.
Edited to say: Those in the UK who can should work in another country particularly an EU one.I'm not cynical I'm realistic
(If a link I give opens pop ups I won't know I don't use windows)0 -
Edited to say: Those in the UK who can should work in another country particularly an EU one.
Why?........"If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....
"big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham0 -
If so - my apologies, I assumed your post was suggesting she was a hypocrite.
I don't "think" - I know - mass immigration is causing huge problems and tensions in towns.
We are used to people not integrating and speaking English when they visit our city, we are next to Wales
Just one point, the Poles think they are in Central Europe not the East. 'Just think for a moment what a prospect that is. A single market without barriers visible or invisible giving you direct and unhindered access to the purchasing power of over 300 million of the worlds wealthiest and most prosperous people' Margaret Thatcher0 -
We are used to people not integrating and speaking English when they visit our city, we are next to Wales Just one point, the Poles think they are in Central Europe not the East.
At least they get their own traffic signs around your way."If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....
"big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham0 -
There is an article in the Daily Mail today featuring the lady from Boston who spoke out against Mass Immigration on Question Time.
Before anybody starts criticizing and making snide comments for posting an article from the "Daily Fail" - please do not bother with your clueless ill informed ranting it's all been heard before.
This article goes some way to painting a true picture of the true impact of mass immigration.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2265592/The-mother-told-truth-immigration-BBC-Rachel-Bull-explains-HAD-speak-Question-Time.html
I listened to this lady speaking on Question Time and I felt the overwhelming emotion that she generated throughout the audience and I would imagine throughout the country alone.
These people represent the feelings of many of our communities. In the area that I live we have a number of residents that English is most certainly not their first language, I have nothing against them personally but it is getting to be the norm nowadays.
When I was working, before my retirement, I visited many hundreds of hotels in my job and to be honest hardly any of the rear of house employees spoke English and it was rather frustrating trying to communicate with them at times, so this has been steadily getting a mmore common trend over the past fives or so years.0
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