Husband an Expat overseas

flashnazia

plum2002 wrote: »

i do fear for the youth of this country, such ignorance being passed on. Might i remind you that I am not the one pecking at carcass', demanding posters past history in order to bully and ridicule, the venom directed towards posters on here is astounding. Its not that anyone expects everyone to agree, but wishing ill will in the form of marital breakdown simply because you dont like how they live their life? That's not normal, is it?

The OP is a carcass now?

I don't wish the op any harm but she is asking for trouble; coming on the BENEFITS board, telling us they moved to escape the 50% tax rate and coming across as if she wants benefits.

justlooking2012

Plum just likes to be offended on other peoples behalf and then makes out that others have boring lives.

The OP would not continue if she were that offended and if you look at her posts, they get more and more inflammatory.
As I have said people with that sort of money would not bother with an internet forum but they would ask an accountant, as the savings to be made could be thousands and thousands

kb92830

Confused, as long as you are not working you will claim a zero income. For Tax credits you will be treated as a single parent and will therefore recieve the full entitlement. Child benefit is slightly different, however, as you Husband is staying in a country which has no reciprocal agreements with the UK I also believe you would recieve the entitlement for this to. Alongside the Tax credits you will also be entitled to free prescriptions etc.

For other Benefits it is not so easy as the DWP will most likely see you as being temporarily separated, they have slightly different rules for for how they classify you even though both the benefits group and the child benefit group now fall under the DWP.

Before anybody criticises this information, she is legally entitled to claim and therefore she will be doing nothing wrong by doing so. My wife and I did this for 3 years until she decided to join me in Switzerland., as others have said, its an entitlement so why shouldn`t it be claimed.

bloomingflower

I have just been reading this thread and have to say that there are some noticeable contradictions on here and on other various threads on the benefits board about the issue of 'benefit scroungers' which the venom is usually directed at the unemployed.

The Op has proven that there are in fact high end earners who also need to claim some sort of benefit for one reason or another.

Going back to the Op's first question which includes the following sentence;

ConfusedExpat wrote: »

It would appear that with my husband outside the UK tax system and me inside it I am treated as a single mother!

Has it not occurred to anyone that HMRC have given her this clarification? And so she subsequently came on MSE to ask for advice.

It's just mind boggling that 'anti benefit scroungers' are now jumping on high tax payers for claiming what they are entitled to and if they don't agree with that they resort to personal attacks such as the one below. This was so uncalled for! Unbelievable!

notanewuser wrote: »

Provided he doesn't find a newer model in the land of plenty.

flashnazia

kb92830 wrote: »

Confused, as long as you are not working you will claim a zero income. For Tax credits you will be treated as a single parent and will therefore recieve the full entitlement. Child benefit is slightly different, however, as you Husband is staying in a country which has no reciprocal agreements with the UK I also believe you would recieve the entitlement for this to. Alongside the Tax credits you will also be entitled to free prescriptions etc.

For other Benefits it is not so easy as the DWP will most likely see you as being temporarily separated, they have slightly different rules for for how they classify you even though both the benefits group and the child benefit group now fall under the DWP.

Before anybody criticises this information, she is legally entitled to claim and therefore she will be doing nothing wrong by doing so. My wife and I did this for 3 years until she decided to join me in Switzerland., as others have said, its an entitlement so why shouldn`t it be claimed.

So you encourage bankrupting this country and have benefited yourself.

It might be allowed - I'm not convinced it is - but I have no doubt in my mind that IT IS MORALLY WRONG.

Jeez, the hypocrisy of people moving to tax havens, in order to avoid tax, and then using loopholes to claim uk benefits is astounding.

kb92830

flashnazia, this is not a loophole but a matter of statute. I did not move abroad to avoid tax or improve my ability to claim from the UK state. What I did do, was get off my backside, secure a good job and then as a consequence of this I was informed by the Tax Credit office of the situation. I do not agree with the tax laws of the UK, but I still paid every month, why should I not do the same when the tables are turned.

My last months tax when leaving the UK amounted to over 40,000 pounds, have you ever paid that amount of tax in 1 month or even your entire life. The fact is is that I paid in, I am entitled to take out and did so, morals are not even in question here. The same goes for the OP, if she is entitled then she should claim and should not be afraid to do so.

Just to add, Switzerland is not a tax haven, we still pay tax here, perhaps you could get your facts right before you start typing.

flashnazia

kb92830 wrote: »

Just to add, Switzerland is not a tax haven, we still pay tax here, perhaps you could get your facts right before you start typing.

Am I really that mistaken?

As soon as Alistair Darling revealed the 50% income tax rate for those earning over £150,000 on Wednesday, he was accused of saving the wrong economy. Rather than filling the Treasury's empty coffers, the move would benefit fiscally lenient countries such as Switzerland, said some commentators. One thinktank estimated that around 25,000 high-end taxpayers would shift tax regimes, with the low-tax cantons of Switzerland the biggest beneficiaries.

At least one relocation company has already seen a spike in inquiries about living the Alpine life since the budget. "In the 24 hours afterwards, we saw a 41% increase in people in the UK searching for Switzerland, compared to
Monday," said Anne Wright of estate agents Prime Location International.

It's one thing doing an idle internet search, another entirely for Britain's highest earners to actually swap the bright lights of the City for the sedate charms of Zürich or Zermatt. After all, the exodus predicted last time the bank balances of the super-rich were supposedly under threat - when the government moved to change the laws around "non-doms" - never materialised. And, to paraphrase Orson Welles in The Third Man, what does Switzerland really have to offer the masters of the universe beyond longevous brotherly love and cuckoo clocks?

The answer, as Lewis Hamilton, Tina Turner, David Bowie and all of the other megarich celebrities who relocated there will no doubt be too coy to admit, is: the lowest taxes in Europe.

"How much tax you pay in Switzerland depends on whether you are single, married or have children, how much you earn and where you live," said Gema Ricart of the Swiss government's finance department. A study by BAK Basle Economic says high earners would pay the lowest taxes in Switzerland by moving to Zug, in the middle of the country. There, a single, highly qualified person earning €100,000 a year would pay just 22%, compared with 38.2% in the UK.

Fair enough, the rules are the rules but posters shouldn't expect virtual hugs and kisses when they highlight thoughts of using a system to their advantage when they don't need to.

clemmatis

bloomingflower wrote: »

I have just been reading this thread and have to say that there are some noticeable contradictions on here and on other various threads on the benefits board about the issue of 'benefit scroungers' which the venom is usually directed at the unemployed.

The Op has proven that there are in fact high end earners who also need to claim some sort of benefit for one reason or another.

Really, you can't get "need" from the posts.

kb92830

virtual hugs and kisses

Likewise they shouldn`t expect to be criticised unfairly

using a system to their advantage when they don't need to.

I don`t believe the OP has said she doesn`t need to, that is an assumption on your behalf.

clemmatis

kb92830 wrote: »

I don`t believe the OP has said she doesn`t need to, that is an assumption on your behalf.

Look. I think the OP's trolling. But her posts taken at face value show no evidence of need.