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EU-Mythbusting
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HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »
It turns out the EU does operate to a higher standard than the UK.
"The Court of Auditors has given last year, as it did in previous years, a clean bill of health on the EU accounts. The Court confirms these accounts faithfully reflect how the EU budget was spent.
Call me a cynic,having been around a bit , I would be surprised if either stood up to any real scrutiny.
The fact I give each of my children£5 to buy lunch and that equals £10. I've got a clean bill of health. £10 in £10 out.
The fact they spend it on sweets and don't tell me is OK is it?"If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....
"big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham0 -
With EU I think it is more akin to them spending it on crack, or bunging it on a horse. But I guess if you don't ask then there is no problem.grizzly1911 wrote: »Call me a cynic,having been around a bit , I would be surprised if either stood up to any real scrutiny.
The fact I give each of my children£5 to buy lunch and that equals £10. I've got a clean bill of health. £10 in £10 out.
The fact they spend it on sweets and don't tell me is OK is it?0 -
Haven't totally debunked the parliament article as you promised then Hamish?
Also went strangely quiet over my "made up nonsense" as soon as I provided a link?0 -
Does it say financial regulation? Or just any form of regulation, that would include regulation arising from other international standards too.
It says "regulation" however I have a very hard time believing that EU financial regulation alone is responsible for <0.1% of UK regulatory costs, let alone costs arising from other regulations.
The theory of the EU is a great thing. In practice it's just as !!!!!! as anything else that politicians have created.0 -
Read what I said...you quotations were selective.Graham_Devon wrote: »That's just about the best ever response I've seen from someone so pro-EU.
It's from Parliament, but it doesn't count, and I have confirmation bias? Yet all of your evidence, pulled from anywhere and everywhere, is fine? Indeed, you thanked Hamish for it.
This is just proof that you cannot stand the opposite viewpoint. What exactly do you want me to do? Quote the full 84 pages? It's the opening analysis of the document that I have taken the quotations from....I'm not entirely sure what you are expecting.0 -
Why bother? Give global warming a few more years and we'll have a Caribbean climate in [Portugal] anyway :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:
...............meanwhile the massive increase in fresh water as all the ice in Greenland and at the polar cap melts will make it impossible for the Gulf Stream to cool and sink off Norway. The North Atlantic will be colder in the winter and Aberdeen harbour will freeze up as befits a town as far North as Hudson Bay.0 -
HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »Immigration is a benefit, we need more of it not less.
The Labour government estimated that 15K citizens would come here from the first wave of East European new states to join the EU shortly after the year 2000.
I welcomed them.
750,000 actually turned up over the next few years, I welcomed them.
[Most of them were young fit and well educated and were prepared to get stuck in and make money, they showed up the NEETS in booming Britain for the welfare state raised failures that they were.]
However I did misjudge the propensity of the Poles in particular to want to return to their mother/father land and put their new found capital and experience to good use repairing their legacy from 50 years of "socialism". They liked it here for social reasons and are tending to stay on and build new lives away from their reactionary parents.
Should I extend the same hand of friendship to the Romanians & Bulgarians, when the support of our welfare state gets extended to these new EU citizens ?
How many will be coming?
Where will they go?
[The advanced guard is already giving the Poles a run for their money in the building trade and our own unemployed are probably trailing along in 3rd place?].
As an employer of those with building skills do you have a view on the situation Hamish?
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John_Pierpoint wrote: »
[The advanced guard is already giving the Poles a run for their money in the building trade and our own unemployed are probably trailing along in 3rd place?].
There are lazy British builders,lazy Polish builders and lazy Lithuanian builders. There are some excellant British tradesmen who do a first class job but I'm yet to see any excellant quality work carried out by Polish or Lithuanian tradesmen.
I'm of the opinion the good Polish/Lithuanian tradesmen probably stayed at home.0 -
I have a relative who has just had a room re plastered by a Bulgarian. It appears to be a better job than a previous attempt on a similar room by a UK "tradesman".
What would you say is a sensible day rate for such a tradesman?0
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