POPLA- Result now in

FightOrFlight

Aaron_Aadvark wrote: »

London Councils have stated that "POPLA is not a statutory tribunal."

(System will not me provide a link to the source of the quotation)

There's something here. Look up the one at the bottom:

Popla is not a statutory tribunal
Reply #82 on: 19 December, 2012, 01:25:28 PM

or this BBC short video posted at:

Re: Popla
Reply #76 on: 27 November, 2012, 11:47:39 AM

Kite2010

POPLA is as independent as an independent report into the non-hazards of product X paid for by the makers of product X.

It ain't fit for purpose

Aaron_Aadvark

FightOrFlight wrote: »

There's something here. Look up the one at the bottom:

Popla is not a statutory tribunal
Reply #82 on: 19 December, 2012, 01:25:28 PM

Thanks for posting the intended link.

FightOrFlight

trisontana wrote: »

One question that has been raised both on PePiPoo and on previous occasions is if the PPC asserts that the £100 sum is not a penalty, but a parking fee, where is the means to pay this money when you first park? Also there doesn't seem to be a time limit to that parking once you have paid. In other words, both parties have agreed to an open-ended contract, and you can park there in perpetuity. Quite a bargain!

Compare that to a "proper" long term car park, such as at an airport, where you pay so much a day, and pay that amount when you leave. Of course all this PPC "contractual parking fee" is a load of nonsense and is just an unfair penalty pretending to be something it isn't.

The only way to test it is to send a PPC £50 or whatever they quoting as a parking charge and then keep braking their 'rules' and rejecting every consecutive charge notice on the grounds that the contractual fee has already been paid. Nothing on their signage or letter would give any court material to rule otherwise.

FightOrFlight

Aaron_Aadvark wrote: »

Thanks for posting the intended link.

Happy to help out.

Dave_TH

FightOrFlight wrote: »

The only way to test it is to send a PPC £50 or whatever they quoting as a parking charge and then keep braking their 'rules' and rejecting every consecutive charge notice on the grounds that the contractual fee has already been paid. Nothing on their signage or letter would give any court material to rule otherwise.

you pay, I just continue to wind them up, it's cheaper, I always pick my battles, easier to manipulate the outcome

FightOrFlight

Aaron_Aadvark wrote: »

London Councils have stated that "POPLA is not a statutory tribunal."

(System will not me provide a link to the source of the quotation)

This quote seems to have come from the linked document. It's a gem (my brackets, underline and bold).

London Councils’ Transport & Environment Committee. Proposed Appeals Service in relation to Parking on Private land.

"Whilst the new service [POPLA] has similarities with the existing Parking and Traffic Appeals Service, the key difference is that the new appeals service will be run by a non statutory body considering the merits of each case based on contract law whereas PATAS is a statutory body operating under Road Traffic law."

Source: http://www.londoncouncils.gov.uk/London%20Councils/Item20.POPLAReport140612.doc

ManxRed

Its a start.

All we have to do now is wait until their adjudicators know, at the very least, the fundamentals of contract law and we'll be set to go!

Don't hold your breath, people.

BASFORDLAD

Popla have now said

"they are unable to discuss matters which relate to an appeal but the head ajudicator has noted the comments.. This is due to it being an independent body..........

!!!!!!

Fergie76

BASFORDLAD, have you had any further correspondence from the PPC since you have had the POPLA response?