Ask Atos Healthcare disability assessment questions

halight

schrodie wrote: »

I'd like to ask the "Atos Rep" in light of the yesterday's MPs debate on Atos which you can read here Here what they thought of the damning evidence against Atos!

Just a bump as I would like the company that are said to be doing the ATOS PR work on this site to answer this.

Bet they don't.

sicknotethefirst

Hot and Kitchen comes to mind. :mad:

ebsay

schrodie wrote: »

I'd like to ask the "Atos Rep" in light of the yesterday's MPs debate on Atos which you can read here Here what they thought of the damning evidence against Atos!

Would the ATOS rep like to comment on MP Michael Meacher's speech?

http://www.theyworkforyou.com/debates/?id=2013-01-17a.1050.0&s=speaker%3A10964#g1080.0

''I have been sent nearly 300 case histories, many of which make heart-rending reading. I cannot begin to do justice to their feelings of distress, indignation, fear, helplessness and, indeed, widespread anger at the way they have been treated.

Nor can I easily contain my own feelings at the slowness, rigidity and insensitivity with which Atos and the Department for Work and Pensions have responded—or very often not responded—to the cries of pain that they have heard repeatedly.

I have time to cite briefly only three examples which show how extreme is the dysfunction and malfunctioning of the Atos assessments.

The first example concerns a constituent of mine who was epileptic almost from birth and was subject to grand mal seizures. At the age of 24, he was called in by Atos, classified as fit for work and had his benefit cut by £70 a week. He appealed, but became agitated and depressed and lost weight, fearing that he could not pay his rent or buy food. Three months later, he had a major seizure that killed him. A month after he died, the DWP rang his parents to say that it had made a mistake and his benefit was being restored.

The second example, also from the Oldham area, concerns a middle-aged woman who was registered blind and in an advanced stage of retinitis pigmentosa. She was assessed at 9 points—well short of the 15 that are needed—and her incapacity benefit was withdrawn. On review by a tribunal, the Atos rating of 9 points was increased to 24.

The third case—I could have chosen from hundreds of others—also comes from the north-west and concerns an insulin-dependent diabetic with squamous cell cancer, Hughes syndrome, which involves a failed immune system, peripheral neuropathy, which meant that he had no feeling in his feet or legs, heart disease, depression and anxiety. Despite his life-threatening condition, he was placed in the work-related activity group.

Those and myriad other examples illustrate incontrovertibly that Atos’s current work capability assessment system is drastically flawed, and for several reasons. First, Atos is an IT firm and it uses the so-called Logic Integrated Medical Assessment, which is often described as “rigid” and “tick-box” because computer-based systems make it difficult for health professionals to exercise their professional judgment. Because such a mechanistic system has little or no regard for the complexity of the needs of severely disabled or sick persons, the British Medical Association and others have condemned the current WCA as “not fit for purpose”. ''

JS477

schrodie wrote: »

I'd like to ask the "Atos Rep" in light of the yesterday's MPs debate on Atos which you can read here Here what they thought of the damning evidence against Atos!

Given the mauling that Atos received from MPs from all parties yesterday in Parliament I'd be surprised if we see this Atos person in the foreseeable future but if we do they'll pusillanimously avoid any reference to yesterdays expose of their inhumane treatment towards the most vulnerable in society!

It's the fact that MPs from all parties were in agreement that speaks volumes as to Atos's guilt! I noted that Hoban stayed well clear of commenting on any of the appalling cases of inhumane treatment by Atos towards disabled people. He just stuck to the party line that the WCA is being improved, Harrington's recommendations are being applied, more people going into the SG blah blah blah!! Even so and even though he is a tory it must have made very uncomfortable listening for him!

halight

vision2009 wrote: »

Come on ATOS to quote your paymasters "If you have nothing to hide , you have nothing to fear"

I don't think they will be back.
They are not getting the good press that they were hoping for from using this site.

They tryed to use this site for there own good. and not the for the good of other forum users.

They don't seem to be interested in helping any forum members. They are not interested in answering any of the real questions.

sicknotethefirst

Last Activity: Yesterday 11:22 AM Just as the debate started

ebsay

halight wrote: »

I don't think they will be back.
They are not getting the good press that they were hoping for from using this site.

They tryed to use this site for there own good. and not the for the good of other forum users.

They don't seem to be interested in helping any forum members. They are not interested in answering any of the real questions.

Indeed the silence from ATOS speaks volumes.

It saddens me that they attempted to use Martin's website purely for their own PR ends. (And also that they have been allowed to do so).

They have failed to kid anyone.

MP's of all sides have spoken out against them, exposed their tricks, their games, and their lies!

Still hopefully MSE will now appreciate and understand the extent as to which it's forum members have been ill treated by ATOS and it's so called Health Care Professionals.


ATOS has proved it doesn't give A TOSS!

ebsay

sicknotethefirst wrote: »

Last Activity: Yesterday 11:22 AM Just as the debate started

Not even their Public Relations team can defend the indefensible!

Atos_Healthcare_representative

phoenixbbs wrote: »

If you turn up to an assessment, but refuse to give consent for non-medically proficient staff to carry out an assessment, what happens ?

If someone arrived for an assessment but refused to give consent to continue the referral would be returned by us to DWP. They would then determine what action they would take. Please be assured though that all of our health care professionals are doctors, nurses and physiotherapists who have at least three years post-qualification experience and are registered with their Medical Body. Before carrying out assessments they all receive further comprehensive specialist training in disability assessment. They must then be approved by the DWP Chief Medical Adviser on behalf of the Secretary of State.

sicknotethefirst

Atos_Healthcare_company_representative wrote: »

If someone arrived for an assessment but refused to give consent to continue the referral would be returned by us to DWP. They would then determine what action they would take. Please be assured though that all of our health care professionals are doctors, nurses and physiotherapists who have at least three years post-qualification experience and are registered with their Medical Body. Before carrying out assessments they all receive further comprehensive specialist training in disability assessment. They must then be approved by the DWP Chief Medical Adviser on behalf of the Secretary of State.

Sounds very familiar
http://www.atoshealthcare.com/claimants/our_healthcare_professionals

All Atos Healthcare doctors, nurses and physiotherapists have at least three years post-qualification experience and are registered with their respective Medical Body. They come from a range of backgrounds including general practice, hospitals, NHS Direct, etc.
Before undertaking assessments, all doctors, nurses and physiotherapists receive further comprehensive specialist training in disability assessment. They must then be approved by the DWP Chief Medical Adviser on behalf of the Secretary of State.