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Massive benefits cuts

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  • BertieUK
    BertieUK Posts: 1,701 Forumite
    nicko33 wrote: »
    and how much is jailing him going to cost us?

    Very good point you make... Figures vary but the average according to one source was £41,000 pa to keep the average offender locked up, so this character was jailed for 9 years, remissions say 5.5 years would be a massive £225,000.
  • Generali wrote: »
    That will make it so much easier to afford the welfare bill, the fact that apparently the cost is less than some people think.

    The cost is less than people think. So why the witch hunt by the Tories? Oh yes, to divide and conquer.

    "There's a storm coming, Mr. Tory. You and your friends better batten down the hatches, because when it hits, you're all gonna wonder how you ever thought you could live so large and leave so little for the rest of us."
  • Generali
    Generali Posts: 36,411 Forumite
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    Ionkontrol wrote: »
    The cost is less than people think. So why the witch hunt by the Tories? Oh yes, to divide and conquer

    Not according to your quote. According to your quote the value of certain benefits is believed to be higher than they actually are.

    I suspect people would be appalled to know the actual cost of the welfare state: almost £400,000,000,000 a year excluding education.
  • ukcarper
    ukcarper Posts: 17,337 Forumite
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    Ionkontrol wrote: »
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    I notice they didn't include the £113.68 child tax credit and £33.70 child benefit the couple would get so I wonder what the 3% includes
  • mrginge wrote: »
    Apparently these cuts are going to impact some working families by as much as £200 a year. That's nearly £5 a week.

    How the fr1gging hell is anyone supposed to cope with this devastating reduction in benefits????????

    Surely this is more than offset by the increased personal allowances on your tax that you have received over the last couple of years, and which you would not have received under Labour, who like to tax people, especially the poor.

    Remember the removal of the 10% tax rate?

    But yes, what cuts? How does it apply to you?
  • epz_2
    epz_2 Posts: 1,859 Forumite
    The question i would ask is how we got into a situation where working people needed benefits at all.

    We don't subsidies coal mines or big industrial jobs any more but we are happy to subsidies companies paying low wages. Fundamentally private sector companies only employ people they need so all we are doing is taxing people to support either company profits or jobs in uneconomic areas.
  • GeorgeHowell
    GeorgeHowell Posts: 2,739 Forumite
    epz wrote: »
    The question i would ask is how we got into a situation where working people needed benefits at all.

    /QUOTE]

    Bingo. That is the key question. The answer to of course is : socialism.
    No-one would remember the Good Samaritan if he'd only had good intentions. He had money as well.

    The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money.

    Margaret Thatcher
  • michaels
    michaels Posts: 29,227 Forumite
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    epz wrote: »
    The question i would ask is how we got into a situation where working people needed benefits at all.

    We don't subsidies coal mines or big industrial jobs any more but we are happy to subsidies companies paying low wages. Fundamentally private sector companies only employ people they need so all we are doing is taxing people to support either company profits or jobs in uneconomic areas.

    Isn't the main reason that we restrict house building below its natural level whilst allowing the population to increase. There is no reason that housing should cost more than agricultural land plus build cost plsu profit.
    I think....
  • mrginge
    mrginge Posts: 4,843 Forumite
    epz wrote: »
    The question i would ask is how we got into a situation where working people needed benefits at all.

    /QUOTE]

    Because giving benefits to working people puts more money in their pocket without causing wage inflation.
    Plus it helps to pursuade such people to make the 'correct' voting decision
  • grizzly1911
    grizzly1911 Posts: 9,965 Forumite
    epz wrote: »
    The question i would ask is how we got into a situation where working people needed benefits at all.

    /QUOTE]

    Bingo. That is the key question. The answer to of course is : socialism.

    Nothing to do with with Capitalism, greed and self interest?
    "If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....

    "big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham
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