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Landlord has changed the lock

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  • spacey2012
    spacey2012 Posts: 5,836 Forumite
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    The police often use the "civil matter" as a lazy excuse to "nothing in it for us".
    About 9/10ths of the Law police enforce is civil law.
    Be happy...;)
  • GDB2222
    GDB2222 Posts: 24,953 Forumite
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    All very good stuff, G_M. This sounds like it's an HMO. Does that change anything?

    The other thing to do is contact the council and ask them to rehouse you.
    No reliance should be placed on the above! Absolutely none, do you hear?
  • MoonDragon
    MoonDragon Posts: 203 Forumite
    edited 9 January 2013 at 4:00PM
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    GDB2222 wrote: »
    The other thing to do is contact the council and ask them to rehouse you.
    They don't want to get involved. Called them several times without success.
    A cat who's been sprayed with hot water, will then be afraid of his own bowl of innocent fresh water.
  • G_M
    G_M Posts: 51,977 Forumite
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    MoonDragon wrote: »
    What do you mean by "did not give you the 'prescribed information' about the scheme, again, within 30 days."

    He had put the deposit in a scheme around 6 months after the beginning of the tenancy agreement, but I have not received any 'prescribed information' regarding this scheme during the last 5 months.
    By law, the LL must not just register the deposit, but must give the tenant dtails of the registration using 'prescribed information." BOTH must be done within 30 days of the deposit being paid.

    If both these things are not done, then the S21 Notice is invalid. The tenant can go to the court possession hearing, explain the 'prescribed information' was not provided, and the court should reject the LL's application for possession.

    An example of the 'prescribed information' is here.
    He had put the deposit in a scheme around 6 months after the beginning of the tenancy agreement
    When did the tenancy start and when did he put it in the scheme? Relevant because the rules changed in April 2012. If he put it in a scheme BEFORE April 2012, he may be OK. If AFTER, then his S21 Notice is probobly invalid. You'll need to confirm the exact dates, and also have proof.

    As GDB says, this may be an HMO. I do not think that alters anything I've said about
    * S8
    * S21
    * Protection from Eviction Act
    * lock changing (but do NOT lock out other residents!)
    * Police

    However, if the property should be a licenced HMO (usually more than 5 people in 2 or more 'households' and on 3 floors - but check the localcouncil website), and is NOT licenced, then the tenant can, of course, either cause trouble for the landlord, or threaten to cause trouble.....

    eg see
    http://www.bristol.gov.uk/page/housing/houses-multiple-occupation-hmo-licensing
  • RAS
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    edited 9 January 2013 at 2:30PM
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    Moondragon

    Since you are in London, try https://twitter.com/BenreeveLewis

    Ben Reeve Lewis provided some valuable supoport to an OP here last year and he works as a TRO in London.
    The person who has not made a mistake, has made nothing
  • GDB2222
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    MoonDragon wrote: »
    They don't want to get involved. Called them several without success.

    Which borough are you in?

    Have you spoken (yet) to the council's Tenancy Relations Officer?
    No reliance should be placed on the above! Absolutely none, do you hear?
  • MoonDragon
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    G_M wrote: »
    When did the tenancy start and when did he put it in the scheme? Relevant because the rules changed in April 2012. If he put it in a scheme BEFORE April 2012, he may be OK. If AFTER, then his S21 Notice is probobly invalid. You'll need to confirm the exact dates, and also have proof.

    The one year tenancy started on 06 January 2012.
    He has put the deposit in a scheme on 15 July 2012. And I have received a notification email on 19 July 2012 regarding this last.

    What is an HMO?
    A cat who's been sprayed with hot water, will then be afraid of his own bowl of innocent fresh water.
  • spacey2012
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    How well was the lock fitted, if they failed to tighten the screw bolt on the edge of the door, the lock may slide out and become lost
    Be happy...;)
  • MoonDragon
    MoonDragon Posts: 203 Forumite
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    GDB2222 wrote: »
    Which borough are you in?

    Have you spoken (yet) to the council's Tenancy Relations Officer?
    I am in Lambeth.

    The Council House does not allow me to talk to them.
    A cat who's been sprayed with hot water, will then be afraid of his own bowl of innocent fresh water.
  • MoonDragon
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    Below is the content of the deposit scheme notification email I had received:
    IMPORTANT INFORMATION CONTAINED WITHIN THIS DOCUMENT - DO NOT DELETE

    Dear MoonDragon,

    Your agent / landlord has successfully submitted a deposit to The Deposit Protection Service (The DPS).

    Your Repayment ID for this deposit is:

    xxxxxxx

    You will need the Repayment ID at the end of the tenancy so we can release the deposit to you and your agent / landlord as appropriate. Please keep the Repayment ID confidential and ensure that this advice is retained for future reference.

    The details provided by your agent / landlord are as follows:
    Deposit ID: xxxxxxxxxxxx
    Rental property: xxxxxxxxxx
    Name of lead tenant: MoonDragon
    Name(s) of other tenant(s): None Advised
    Agent / landlord trading title: xxxxxxxxxxxx
    Agent / landlord address: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
    Start date of tenancy: 06 January 2012
    Tenancy period: 1 month
    Deposit amount: xxxxxxxxx
    Date deposit received: 15 July 2012

    Please ensure that these are correct. Should you need to make any changes, you can do so by visiting depositprotection dot com, selecting ‘Log in now’ and entering the Deposit ID and your unique Repayment ID in the Tenant prompt.

    When logged in, you can:

    View the details of your tenancy / deposit
    Read the rules of the scheme
    Request the repayment of your deposit at the end of the tenancy

    When your tenancy period expires, please remember to update your forwarding address. You can do this by logging in as above.

    Thank you for using The Deposit Protection Service.

    Yours sincerely,

    The DPS Support Team

    A cat who's been sprayed with hot water, will then be afraid of his own bowl of innocent fresh water.
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