MSE News: MPs vote to limit benefit rises to 1%

leveller2911

scootw1 wrote: »

Why do you say 'disabled hating'? If he was he would gave included them as well in this bill but he didn't. Though why the cost of living seems to be different for certain groups of people is anyone's guess.

I was going to ask the same question but after reading their Signature I decided it was worth it..;)

princessdon

guilds wrote: »

From the comments on here it would appear that the Tories haven't lost their innate ability to do what they do best, divide and rule.
How about closing the tax loopholes so that everyone pays their own fair share in this tough economic climate? They are all at it: Microsoft, Amazon, Vodafone, Goldman Sachs, Starbucks etc. Oh no the poor are far easier target.

No dividing there - haven't met anyone who disagrees. Although there is an arugument they'd stop employing and lower employment but I'd take the chance.

I also think firms like 3 Mobile and others who use overseas staff instead of the UK should pay more tax as they deny employment opportunities.

Just because someone disagrees that benefits should rise more than wages doesn't mean they support the party or all decisions they make.

schrodie

scootw1 wrote: »

Why do you say 'disabled hating'? If he was he would gave included them as well in this bill but he didn't. Though why the cost of living seems to be different for certain groups of people is anyone's guess.

One MP tried to point out to him that disabled people would be hit harder by this cut in benefits but Irritable D-S dismissed him in his usual nasty manner. It will be in Hansard tomorrow, check it out.

guilds

Lower Employment? Expand on that one

flexrider

guilds wrote: »

From the comments on here it would appear that the Tories haven't lost their innate ability to do what they do best, divide and rule.
How about closing the tax loopholes so that everyone pays their own fair share in this tough economic climate? They are all at it: Microsoft, Amazon, Vodafone, Goldman Sachs, Starbucks etc. Oh no the poor are far easier target.

Its because there too scraed of them saying "Right sod ya tax...Were shut down shop in UK and open up in another content"

plus its a EU tax loop also that alows companies to open up offshore companies like Google or Amazon can operate there business in Europe and have a valid Tax purposes account registered to Luxemburg tax which in turns pays in less tax here...sad but true

Edit would be great for this country anyway to push small companies into bigger companies and get the ones on dole into smaller companies i think as one day they may become the next amazon uk store or telephone Giant...shame this Government cant work that one out when a company starts more employment begins on demand of business? hence lower unemployment....

princessdon

guilds wrote: »

Lower Employment? Expand on that one

The argument is that they would employ less people or move parts of their operation to other countries.

It *can be argued* and not saying I agree - that by lowering the corporation tax for some global companies attracts them to the UK over other countries, raising employment. If other countries offered a lower rate, they'd invest more in that country.

Whilst personally I agree with that, I'd set the limit to say 2 years after which they pay full rates, giving them time to build their brand in this country.

ILW

flexrider wrote: »

Its because there too scraed of them saying "Right sod ya tax...Were shut down shop in UK and open up in another content"

plus its a EU tax loop also that alows companies to open up offshore companies like Google or Amazon can operate there business in Europe and have a valid Tax purposes account registered to Luxemburg tax which in turns pays in less tax here...sad but true

Edit would be great for this country anyway to push small companies into bigger companies and get the ones on dole into smaller companies i think as one day they may become the next amazon uk store or telephone Giant...shame this Government cant work that one out when a company starts more employment begins on demand of business? hence lower unemployment....

How would you suggest a government can grow small companies into large ones?

zoominatorone

flexrider wrote: »

Please at 120 a for-night JSA is not rolling in it, Even By the Daily mail or newpapers you may read its 1% of 120 quid a forthnight so 118.24p or 236 pound a month without housing benefit you could not even pay the rent with that

read it again. I said single on JSA is NOT rolling it, whereas someone with one child at least, IS compared to the single person on JSA.

guilds

Microsoft, IBM, Goldman sachs have to have a presence in this country, if not their market share and ability to operate would be significantly diminished. They need the uk just as much as we need them, so they should pay the full tax on income generated in the territorial borders. If employers like Tesco and some of the a fometioned companies payed a living wage we would not be having to pay Tax Credits, every pound a Tescos employee get sin tax credits is a pound in shareholders pocket, how can a company make so much profit and have some many people on Tax Credits that work for it, the profits are made at the taxpayer expense, it's ludicrous.

flexrider

ILW wrote: »

How would you suggest a government can grow small companies into large ones?

Quite easily

• by matching the skills we need to compete Globally like Germany did whilst tackling the euro crisis. As i said a few times we not broke yet compared to europe and Austrity will push us there soon enough because the cuts don not help Growth or the economy (In 2012 the Econmary gre 0.0000001% after two years of power befor e the coalition we have 5% Gdp )
• The goverment could follow germany suit and try to re-invest in small business which in time turn to big business and more employment? As well as close the loops and train people to compete instead of wasting A4E programs say 1 million poiund could sucure funding for new companies and take xxx staff on, and trade helping people get there own business by free social exchange programs shown in programs like Bank on Dave for investment to release the capital and start trading to other countries

I don't have all the answers but its better then a big tax payer bail out the Government banks on by paying third companies to solve the problems we all face.


flex