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T-mobile contract ends 28th Jan

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  • grumbler wrote: »
    If you do this you risk that the PAC expires before the number is ported out.
    In this case you will pay for another month.

    Why? What is the best way to do this whole thing?
    grumbler wrote: »
    Also, if your billing month didn't start the same day as your contract, you can be wrong in thinking that all last 30 days of the minimum term were paid in advance.

    I am sure that I pay in advance. My first bill was around £30 although the monthly bill should be £25. So I was paying for the 6 days before the minimum term started counting plus the following month's rental.
  • mije1983
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    I am just saying - as a warning - that the PAC code should be use on the last day of the minimum term. That is all.

    So the "Port out termination" = early termination fee?


    Yes, if you port out your number and therefore end the contract without giving the required 30 days notice, you will be charged a fee.
  • organic_choc
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    edited 6 January 2013 at 10:39PM
    mije1983 wrote: »
    Yes, if you port out your number and therefore end the contract without giving the required 30 days notice, you will be charged a fee.

    Given my situation what should have been the right day for using the PAC?

    What would have been the "right" sequence of things to do? I should have given notice on the 5th Dec? Then request PAC code on the 7th Dec? Then use the PAC on the 5th Jan? ("right" as in I want to avoid renting mobile from Orange from an extra day on the same contract as the only thing that made the contract attractive to me was the redemptions I got from mobiles.co.uk)
  • grumbler
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    edited 6 January 2013 at 10:43PM
    mije1983 wrote: »
    Yes, if you port out your number and therefore end the contract without giving the required 30 days notice, you will be charged a fee.
    No, you don't need to give a notice if you request a PAC. With the right timing you don't pay anything extra. Don't let them do this if they try.

    In fact, if you request a PAC after giving a notice it cancels the notice.
  • mije1983
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    grumbler wrote: »
    No, you don't need to give a notice if you request a PAC. With the right timing you don't pay anything extra. Don't let them do this if they try.

    In fact, if you request a PAC after giving a notice it cancels the notice.

    But is it not the case that requesting the PAC is in effect giving notice? So the correct time to do it is 30 days before your minimum term ends, and then use the PAC on the 30th day?
  • grumbler
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    edited 6 January 2013 at 11:00PM
    mije1983 wrote: »
    But is it not the case that requesting the PAC is in effect giving notice?
    Yes, (effectively) it is the case, but how can you port out without getting PAC first:
    mije1983 wrote: »
    Yes, if you port out your number and therefore end the contract without giving the required 30 days notice, you will be charged a fee.
    ??
    So the correct time to do it is 30 days before your minimum term ends, and then use the PAC on the 30th day?
    As I said above, IMO it is risky to do this at the very last day.
  • macman
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    No it's not. A PAC is only an 'option to quit'-if you don't use it, it expires, and your contract continues.
    You need to either give notice or request a PAC. Not both, as one cancels out the other. Just giving notice will result in loss of the number, so if you want to port the number then all you need to do is request your PAC, and use it before the 30 days expiry date.
    No free lunch, and no free laptop ;)
  • mije1983
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    macman wrote: »
    No it's not. A PAC is only an 'option to quit'-if you don't use it, it expires, and your contract continues.
    You need to either give notice or request a PAC. Not both, as one cancels out the other. Just giving notice will result in loss of the number, so if you want to port the number then all you need to do is request your PAC, and use it before the 30 days expiry date.

    Yes I know that but I thought that if I requested a PAC, then ported to another network within 30 days, I would be charged as I hadn't given them 30 days warning (for want of a better word than notice) of my possible intention to leave.

    But what you are saying is I could request a PAC, then port out the next day and not be charged?
  • organic_choc
    organic_choc Posts: 141 Forumite
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    edited 6 January 2013 at 11:26PM
    mije1983, grumbler and macman: I think many would find it helpful (and in fact should be made a sticky!) if each of you can write a flow chart on when to do what, in order to avoid spending an extra day (or more) on the original contract and also being charged the "Port out termination"!! I know that you guys' versions varies but whatever!

    Many people go for those redemption deals in order to save money, if people have to stay an extra day, week, or even month on those contracts it kinda make the money saving less effective.
  • officeguru
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    I would just like to say that I am now totally confused.. I never realised that it would be so complicated.. When I phoned T-mobile all they said was that I would have to let them know whether I was going to go on a contract or a payg after my contract ended...

    As I use the phone so seldom, I am not going to bother with the pac code and complicate matters and have to pay a monthly cost... as all I will do is send an email/or text to my few friends and give them my new number... when I decide what to do...

    As I am keeping the phone, how do I keep all the numbers on the phone? If I change the sim, do I lose the numbers?
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