Daughter absolutely potless dont know where to turn

keithrgj

amazes me how the daily hate mail brigade are now the canker on our society

keithrgj

SHALL WE HAVE A DOSE OF REALITY

and not the crap from the daily hate mail with official figures

The largest element of social security expenditure (42 per cent) goes to pensioners. Housing benefit accounts for 20 per cent per cent (and about one fifth of these claimants are in work); 15 per cent goes on children, through child benefit and child tax credit; 8 per cent on disability living allowance, which helps disabled people (both in and out of work) with extra costs; 4 per cent on employment and support allowance to those who cannot work due to sickness or disability; 4 per cent on income support, mainly for single parents, carers and some disabled people; 3 per cent on jobseeker’s allowance; and 2 per cent on carer’s allowance and maternity pay, leaving 3 per cent on other benefits.

Johnnytwostep

Oh I see she writes like that so you can understand her...fair enough. No point using big words when you are here.

krisskross

I seem to remember the op saying her daughter has lived in Spain since she was 14. So presumably never had a job in the UK.

I know when we went to live in Spain we were expected to be self supporting financially.

Difficult one really, I presume the children are Spanish having been born there and with a Spanish father.

I am sure it will be sorted in the end, just a question of jumping through the required hoops. I don't see why this little family is entitled to anything from British taxpayers having never contributed a single penny, possibly in either country but I am sure they will receive enough to live on plus housing costs eventually.

I understood that one of the conditions to pass the habitual residency test was that one hadn't come here for the sole purpose of claiming benefits. If this s the case then they will fall at this first hurdle.

MinaMina

Morlock wrote: »

That is a big assumption.

Well whatever you like, now move on to your next thread please!

Dunroamin

zzzLazyDaisy wrote: »

To be honest, their reasons why they are in this pickle are not really relevant. The fact is that they are here now, for whatever reason, and the question is what do they do from here.

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Surely the purpose of the HRT is to ascertain whether or not people have come to the UK specifically for the purpose of claiming benefits so the question is very relevant.

princessdon

Op admits they came here to claim benefits as they were not entitled to Spanish benefits, I also think (could be wrong here) that op returned back herself from Spain when she couldn't get benefits and claimed (possibly still claiming) a while ago as job hunting is harder than they thought.

With that in mind, you can see why they are asking questions when they arrive in the uk, no jobs, no home and expect to be housed and have benefits. I understood the residency test looked at whether the intention of entering the country was benefits.

They left a home etc over there, op knows jobs are limited so why come?

Teahfc

I have a property in Spain actually am here at moment, there is the Spanish unemployment benefit system, it is if you have the requirements more generous than the UK one.
Amazing how many of my "British neighbours" have now hit hard times and after claiming they were almost Spanish ( despite being paid various allowances from the UK government) now moan like hell as they cannot move back to their place of birth and get HB and all the trimmings.
The good life eh !

debrag

krisskross wrote: »

I seem to remember the op saying her daughter has lived in Spain since she was 14. So presumably never had a job in the UK.

I know when we went to live in Spain we were expected to be self supporting financially.

Difficult one really, I presume the children are Spanish having been born there and with a Spanish father.

I am sure it will be sorted in the end, just a question of jumping through the required hoops. I don't see why this little family is entitled to anything from British taxpayers having never contributed a single penny, possibly in either country but I am sure they will receive enough to live on plus housing costs eventually.

I understood that one of the conditions to pass the habitual residency test was that one hadn't come here for the sole purpose of claiming benefits. If this s the case then they will fall at this first hurdle.

So what's the min you can live abroad and return with benefits? The mother seemed to do it easily enough. Or does it go on working years?

princessdon

Teahfc wrote: »

I have a property in Spain actually am here at moment, there is the Spanish unemployment benefit system, it is if you have the requirements more generous than the UK one.
Amazing how many of my "British neighbours" have now hit hard times and after claiming they were almost Spanish ( despite being paid various allowances from the UK government) now moan like hell as they cannot move back to their place of birth and get HB and all the trimmings.
The good life eh !

The key word is contributions of which ops family have none. I too understand that Spanish benefits for those who have contributed are generous, just they don't give generously to none contributors. Over here it's the opposite, none contributors get far higher benefits than contributors due to the set up, housing benefits, and tac credits.