Daughter absolutely potless dont know where to turn

Johnnytwostep

skintandscared wrote: »

Sorry I don't understand why they came to the UK from Spain. They had no money there, but they have none here either. If your daughter is taking care of the kids, the only one of them who can feasibly work is the father and he would stand a much better chance of getting a job in his home country.

Why did they come to the UK?

I sum the answer up in three words:

benefits, benefits, benefits.

shedboy94

skintandscared wrote: »

Sorry I don't understand why they came to the UK from Spain. They had no money there, but they have none here either. If your daughter is taking care of the kids, the only one of them who can feasibly work is the father and he would stand a much better chance of getting a job in his home country.

Why did they come to the UK?

Does any other country have a more generous benefit system available to pretty much anyone eventually?

Gentile

shedboy94 wrote: »

Does any other country have a more generous benefit system available to pretty much anyone eventually?

Can any other country borrow as much money as the UK ? :rotfl:
150 billion we borrow every year. The tax payer is taxed more and more in stealth, there will come a time when the hapless tax payer is left with no cash to spend on anything but will be left gaping when a single mum with 5 kids snaps up the new Iphone when it is launched.

Still, who is it who goes out there and votes Labour when there is an election ? The single mum who wants her benefits not the tax payer who is busy working and cannot be arsed.

RAS

Just to quote the opening post here

Its about helping people get their entitlement! Not about benefits policy! Its about helping people get their entitlement! Not about benefits policy!

This board is here for help and support for those on or looking to claim benefits, not for judgement.

It’s ONLY focus is helping people with their money.

It's here to help people find out what they are entitled to under the current system, and to help them get it.

Benefits provide a lifeline for many, and this site is here to help people with their money, and not to judge. Of course, how to illegally defraud the benefits system shouldn't be discussed here, but ensuring you're getting your entitlement is exactly what it’s about.

We all know the benefits system is a mess – but that’s for the discussion time.

Whatever you're political persuasion, we're all aware the benefits system is a mess. Whether it’s the malpayments of tax credits, benefit fraud, or simply the fact that sometimes it doesn't pay to work - everyone has their grumble.

Yet to discuss the benefits system itself and issues around it, the appropriate place isn't here but the Discussion time Board and even there, please remember courtesy and not to make it personal about anyone. This site's prime purpose it to help people with their money and I will always act to protect that.

Thanks for your co-operation

MSE Martin

Morlock

MinaMina wrote: »

Seems like you did'nt have a problem understanding what i wrote.

That is a big assumption.

dseventy

It seems the OP does not want to follow my advice nor answer the questions I raised.

Thats fine, but there are some serious questions to be asked of the family. The OP seems close enough to the situation (she certainly knows their circumstances) to ask these questions.

When they left Spain, what plans did they have?
Where did they expect to live? (getting back to brass tacks, who picked them up from the airport).

To move from one UK town to another UK town requires plans. Who, what, when as minimum. To move from one country to another surely requires more?

D70

Elvisia

I feel embarrassed that when I moved back to the UK from France (I had admittedly paid into the tax system for 12 years over here) I was told by the benefits office when I went to ask about paying my own NI stamps that I must claim JSA as I was entitled to the money. My experience was completely different, I was offered housing benefit (I moved in with my parents instead to save that money) and the woman practically filled my JSA form out for me. I had in fact given up my job in France as the company I worked for was in the process of being sold and we were told we may have been let go at any moment. I've worked very hard and I now have my own business and 'portfolio' career and am happily paying back into the tax system.
I take it there are problems with the OP's daughter as she's not worked over here?

jazabelle

God, this poor lady comes on here asking advice for her daughter - who was born and raised in the UK, who returned to her mother and family, hoping to find work.

In the meantime - she needs something to live on. As anyone would - jobs rarely happens overnight, with having to apply, having an interview, and waiting to hear. And even if the daughter or her partner got a job tomorrow - wages could take a further month.

I love how everyone is saying just get a job like it's easy. Each space at our local supermarkets is getting hundreds of applicants, the last part time admin job I saw got 250 applications.

To the OP - I really hope things work out and there are charities or something that can help in the short term while everyone gets on their feet.

Morlock

Gentile wrote: »

The problem is that here on MSE we are all meant to be nice and civil to everybody and hence if someone comes on here demanding his/her rights to benefits and asking how to fiddle the system, we are meant to help that person in doing that. Makes no sense. If somebody does actually question it, they are labelled trolls and banished. Somebody needs to put their hand up and be counted and ask the questions that everybody wants to ask but is too scared to, and I dont mind doing that. If that means my posts get deleted/ I get banned so be it.

If you get/got banned, it is because you are/were behaving like a d***head or breaking forum rules, or both. MSE is a great place to troll, it takes no skill whatsoever. A blatant anti-welfare attitude will give you that self-centred, conceited, smug troll feeling, it's like shooting fish in a barrel.

clemmatis

Gentile wrote: »

The problem is that here on MSE we are all meant to be nice and civil to everybody

I hadn't noticed.

and hence if someone comes on here demanding his/her rights to benefits and asking how to fiddle the system, we are meant to help that person in doing that

.

In fact, that's against the site rules.

Makes no sense. If somebody does actually question it, they are labelled trolls and banished.

This is weird rabid paranoia. People do not get banned for pointing out that a proposed cause of action would be fraud.