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You post about how funny it is that children are abused at school.
Could you do me a favour please and tell me where on earth you get that information from as I cannot remember posting any reference to children being abused at school.
They may abuse their education when they have left school as what happens many times, because they get too big for their boots.0 -
If it works I'm all for it to get them out because of what they are!chewmylegoff wrote: »Because being a millionaire means you have £1 million of net assets. It doesn't mean you have £1 million of income. The vast majority of millionaires do not earn £1 million a year or anything like that much. Thus labour's claims that the cut from 50% to 45% amounted to David Cameron writing a cheque for £40,000 to every millionaire in the country were complete nonsense and a deliberate attempt to deceive the electorate.0 -
chewmylegoff wrote: »Quite. For instance, it's difficult to imagine you being happy with any government that isn't a Labour one. If the Tories had won an overall majority you'd just be complaining about something else. We currently have the government that the electorate elected - no single party gained a majority, thus coalition government is the result. I don't agree that there should have been another election - we got what we voted for - a hung parliament. Continually holding elections until you get the result you want is just about the most undemocratic thing I can think of.
To be honest with you for at least the last three decades the governing parties have not done a very good job at governing at all, many times you could say that they were not always totally to blame. Outside forces can change overnight and send you into another direction.
Although on hind sight they should have forseen many of the problems looming on the horizon before they were hit by them.
My point is that where you win with a small majority how can you be expected to have the strength to succeed. It would be great if the electorate of our country took a little more time before abstaining from voting to accept that by not voting they are not doing themselves or their country any favours at all. Then they shout from the rooftops about how bad the Government is performing. We have all met them and they will always be there to annoy us.
We got what we voted for that is accepted but what a mess we are in as a result.0 -
chewmylegoff wrote: »Because being a millionaire means you have £1 million of net assets. It doesn't mean you have £1 million of income. The vast majority of millionaires do not earn £1 million a year or anything like that much. Thus labour's claims that the cut from 50% to 45% amounted to David Cameron writing a cheque for £40,000 to every millionaire in the country were complete nonsense and a deliberate attempt to deceive the electorate.
Seriously though...just for a bit of balance...Cameron has been saying we've got an economy like Greece....so again these claims were a deliberate attempt to deceive the electorate.
All an insult to the hard working people of the country..;)0 -
Seriously though...just for a bit of balance...Cameron has been saying we've got an economy like Greece....so again these claims were a deliberate attempt to deceive the electorate.
All an insult to the hard working people of the country..;)
A very good point you are making and I think that many times Cameron deliberate deceives himself with some of the comments he makes, then he tries to do the same to the electorate who are not that stupid to fall for his comments.
If it was not for the hard work that the person on the shop floor achieves then there would be no millionaires.0 -
chewmylegoff wrote: »Because being a millionaire means you have £1 million of net assets. It doesn't mean you have £1 million of income. The vast majority of millionaires do not earn £1 million a year or anything like that much. Thus labour's claims that the cut from 50% to 45% amounted to David Cameron writing a cheque for £40,000 to every millionaire in the country were complete nonsense and a deliberate attempt to deceive the electorate.
Thanks Chewie you are right with your literal translation and quite right in the point you are making from that.
I take the view that as the top rate of "income" tax is being reduced that he is applying his analogy to, IMO, £1m of income, which is really what the calculations add up to - £850 000 x 5% (reduction) or £42500 pa.
I also appreciate that there are relatively few people in that declared income bracket. Perhaps a few more who do make it but are more inventive in their accounting.
No doubt a number of them would splurge their "hard earned" readies on a couple of nice hoilidays and get hit for VAT anyway, so all is not lost."If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....
"big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham0 -
TBH if this idiot is going to be preaching this stuff then it's better for it to be here where the posters have 2 things going for them in relation to this:
- We are largely bright, independent thinkers that aren't sucked in by this stuff
- This is a small, closed board so any dullards that are sucked in are likely to be few in number
Any chance you and some of you other guys can come over to Discussion Time now and then as there are some fervent lefties that really could benefit from your input.
One thread in particular;
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/28848880 -
Or, if it weren't for the entrepreneurs, there wouldn't be a shop floor.
Chicken or egg?
There is a multiplier effect from that shop floor worker and the entrepreneur.
Lots of shop floor workers earning relatively little can keep a whole mountain of "parasites" banks, accountants, solicitors,cosmetic surgeons, double glazing salesmen etc.
Bit like Jenga, take out too many at the bottom and the whole pile collapses. Which is pretty much what has/is a happening in the UK in slow motion. As on parasite dies another takes hold such as the economically inactive."If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....
"big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham0 -
grizzly1911 wrote: »There is a multiplier effect from that shop floor worker and the entrepreneur.
Lots of shop floor workers earning relatively little can keep a whole mountain of "parasites" banks, accountants, solicitors,cosmetic surgeons, double glazing salesmen etc.
Bit like Jenga, take out too many at the bottom and the whole pile collapses. Which is pretty much what has/is a happening in the UK in slow motion. As on parasite dies another takes hold such as the economically inactive.
Shop floor workers should band together to set up their own enterprises and redistibute the profits to themsleves.0
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