Cons Increase Deficit & National Debt Targets Missed

chewmylegoff

Ministers now routinely trot out the statistic that they have cut the huge deficit left by Labour by a quarter.
While this is accurate, Mr Redwood said it could ‘mislead’ people into thinking the national debt is falling, when it is still rising fast

Not sure what your point was intended to be but this hardly supports your mantra that the deficit is getting worse under the coalition. Furthermore, redwood is arguing for greater spending cuts...

If Cameron is at risk of misleading the electorate it is because the electorate doesn't understand what a deficit is. A bit different to your attempts to mislead people to believe that growth was running at 4% per annum in 2010 befor the election which was of course a deliberate lie.

And of course your beloved Ed Milliband has never wilfully mislead anyone- well apart from his claims that the cut in the top tax bracket amounts to a £40,000 tax cut for every millionaire in the country, which is of course a load of old !!!!!!.

grizzly1911

chewmylegoff wrote: »

And of course your beloved Ed Milliband has never wilfully mislead anyone- well apart from his claims that the cut in the top tax bracket amounts to a £40,000 tax cut for every millionaire in the country, which is of course a load of old !!!!!!.

Why? .........

chewmylegoff

grizzly1911 wrote: »

Why? .........

Because being a millionaire means you have £1 million of net assets. It doesn't mean you have £1 million of income. The vast majority of millionaires do not earn £1 million a year or anything like that much. Thus labour's claims that the cut from 50% to 45% amounted to David Cameron writing a cheque for £40,000 to every millionaire in the country were complete nonsense and a deliberate attempt to deceive the electorate.

DecentLivingWage

john redwood is a calm and considered conservative politician with years of experience - i accept his explanatio9n of the cons pushing up the deficit- it seemed very reasoned and balanced to me

Generali

DecentLivingWage wrote: »

john redwood is a calm and considered conservative politician with years of experience - i accept his explanatio9n of the cons pushing up the deficit- it seemed very reasoned and balanced to me

The conservatives haven't pushed up the deficit, the deficit has fallen.

Are you capable of telling the truth? At least you managed to post something that doesn't abuse sick people.

BertieUK

chewmylegoff wrote: »

Quite. For instance, it's difficult to imagine you being happy with any government that isn't a Labour one. If the Tories had won an overall majority you'd just be complaining about something else. We currently have the government that the electorate elected - no single party gained a majority, thus coalition government is the result. I don't agree that there should have been another election - we got what we voted for - a hung parliament. Continually holding elections until you get the result you want is just about the most undemocratic thing I can think of.

We all have opinions in life and have to accept that, may I say that I vote for the party that I feel is going to be best for the country. I could not agree more that Labour overspent their budget what gets up my nose with the present Conservative Government is that have meddled with far too much and have achieved so little. Which ever way you look at the problems that they have to resolve they are not thinking them out enough thats why they did all those u-turns and I feel that it was time that could have been better spent with other issues.

I am just the old codger in the street who has worked hard all his days for a living and tried to do the honest thing in life and I call a spade a spade, but I, like yourself whether it is right or wrong is entitled to an honest opinion.

DecentLivingWage

Yes I agree about voting for the party that's best for the country - being slavishly blinkered is not wise or intelligent, and as voters we need to weigh everything up carefully. What I woulod say is that leaderships and governing styles change - and that means a lot to voters at election time - fresh ideas and a new way of doing things is always attractive - i think a change of leader would do the Cons good as people like David Davis seem more modern! Miliband also is seen as more understanding of voters real lives - whoever it is will still have the deficit - its how they deal with it that will be different. Punishing fragile vulnerable citizens is not a style I feel proud of.

BertieUK

Generali wrote: »

The conservatives haven't pushed up the deficit, the deficit has fallen.

Are you capable of telling the truth? At least you managed to post something that doesn't abuse sick people.

I could say that of you Generali but I have more respect.

Generali

BertieUK wrote: »

I could say that of you Generali but I have more respect.

You post about how funny it is that children are abused at school.

BertieUK

chewmylegoff wrote: »

Because being a millionaire means you have £1 million of net assets. It doesn't mean you have £1 million of income. The vast majority of millionaires do not earn £1 million a year or anything like that much. Thus labour's claims that the cut from 50% to 45% amounted to David Cameron writing a cheque for £40,000 to every millionaire in the country were complete nonsense and a deliberate attempt to deceive the electorate.

I think that when people are said to be worth x million of pounds it can be misconceived to appear to mean, to some people, to have x million in the bank when in truth he may have less than the average man in the bank. As you say in your post.