contraception pill given in schools

inkie

If it's a health need, then the school nurse has a duty of care to provide access to meet that need.

phill99

j.e.j. wrote: »

It does seem strange that it's the school's responsibility to provide contraception. A teenage sexual health clinic would be more appropriate than a place of education. I also think it's giving out the wrong message, if girls as young as 14 are being offered the Pill. 14 is too young to be having a sexual relationship, I'm sorry.

Whether its the wrong story or not, and whether you are reluctant to accept it or not, some 14 year olds having intercourse is as true as night follows day.

Remember: accept what you can't change and change what you can't accept, but learn to know the difference. And like it or not, you won't change some underage youngsters having sex. Best to accept it as an evil rather than failing to accept the truth and encouraging STDs and underage pregnancies.

peachyprice

j.e.j. wrote: »

I also think it's giving out the wrong message, if girls as young as 14 are being offered the Pill. 14 is too young to be having a sexual relationship, I'm sorry.

Girls of 14 have always had and will always have sex. It happened in your time, it happened in your Granny's time and it happened in your Great Grannies time, anyone who tells you different is seriously misguided.

They didn't not do it before just because there was no contraception same as they won't do it more now just because there is.

Janepig

I think they should be giving condoms out a bit more freely rather than the pill, I still think we're fixated on just stopping pregnancies when it's not just about that. TBH I wouldn't have a problem with my children (although they aren't at the relevant age yet) being given condoms at school without my knowledge, but I would be furious if they gave my daughter the pill without my knowledge. Call me old fashioned, whatever, that's my viewpoint.

Jx

sammy_wheeler

verysillyguy06 wrote: »

Nonsense....

why is that nonsense?

1jim

Janepig wrote: »

I think they should be giving condoms out a bit more freely rather than the pill, I still think we're fixated on just stopping pregnancies when it's not just about that. TBH I wouldn't have a problem with my children (although they aren't at the relevant age yet) being given condoms at school without my knowledge, but I would be furious if they gave my daughter the pill without my knowledge. Call me old fashioned, whatever, that's my viewpoint.

Jx

But we need to prevent pregnancies and stis, to do that both are needed
Condoms 97% effective = 3 women out of every 100 who use condoms will become pregnant
Pill, over 99% effective at preventing pregnancies

I would want my daughter to use both, I would hope she could approach us to discuss this area but we have to remember that a lot of kids don't/can't/wont discuss with parents for lots of reasons

1jim

j.e.j. wrote: »

It does seem strange that it's the school's responsibility to provide contraception. A teenage sexual health clinic would be more appropriate than a place of education. I also think it's giving out the wrong message, if girls as young as 14 are being offered the Pill. 14 is too young to be having a sexual relationship, I'm sorry.

It's not necessarily schools responsibility, it's healths, and it will be school nurse doing this. The school is a good place to provide this for ease of access to young people.

I agree, 14 is probably too young but it is what it is, 14 year olds are having sex, they are getting pregnant, and they are catching stis. Better to provide pill or condoms than a termination.

verysillyguy06 wrote: »

Nonsense....

Not sure why it's nonsense, Fraser ruling produced gillick competency, it's a fact. You may not agree but it's the law

Janepig

1jim wrote: »

But we need to prevent pregnancies and stis, to do that both are needed
Condoms 97% effective = 3 women out of every 100 who use condoms will become pregnant
Pill, over 99% effective at preventing pregnancies

I would want my daughter to use both, I would hope she could approach us to discuss this area but we have to remember that a lot of kids don't/can't/wont discuss with parents for lots of reasons

TBH I've got no view either way as far as other children are concerned, they can give the pill out like smarties to other people's kids for all I care, but for my own, I'd want to know. Unfortunately the pill isn't like taking a paracetamol for a headache, it has side effects and someone taking it needs regular check ups, etc.... not to mention having to remember to take it regularly, which I struggled with in my 20's, let alone if I'd been 14, so if my 14 year old daughter was in a position to want/need it then I'd want to know so that we could both look at whether it's the most suitable way forward, I wouldn't want some school nurse dishing it out to her without a second thought.

It might be wisest/safest to use both pill and condoms, but it's just my observation that condoms don't seem to be highlighted enough, that it puts the onus on both sexes to carry them, that they protect against diseases which the pill doesn't. It just seems that because it prevents pregancy the pill seen as the b-all and end all.

I don't entirely buy in to the ignorance thing either. Just because lots of girls who got pregnant young trotted out the "condom broke/forgot to take my pill/didn't think you could get pregnant the first time you had sex", etc..... lines doesn't mean they were actually true. If I'd have got pregnant at 14 I know I'd have given one of those excuses to my mother. In fact, who is really going to go and tell their mother, at 14, "mum, I'm pregnant, I've been sh@gging like a rabbit and I know I should have used contraception but I thought I'd chance it and look what's happened"?. Probably no-one. :cool:

Jx

verysillyguy06

1jim wrote: »

It's not necessarily schools responsibility, it's healths, and it will be school nurse doing this. The school is a good place to provide this for ease of access to young people.

I agree, 14 is probably too young but it is what it is, 14 year olds are having sex, they are getting pregnant, and they are catching stis. Better to provide pill or condoms than a termination.



Not sure why it's nonsense, Fraser ruling produced gillick competency, it's a fact. You may not agree but it's the law

Because it is not...just ignorant people on this forums keep sprouting this nonsense

1jim

verysillyguy06 wrote: »

Because it is not...just ignorant people on this forums keep sprouting this nonsense

I really don't follow, which bit is nonsense?

I can't work out if we agree or disagree :rotfl: