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Cons Lost Election 2015 Already Says Telegraph

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  • brit1234
    brit1234 Posts: 5,385 Forumite
    I won't be voting Conservative and never voting Labour either. Labour are worse, remember what they did with the countries gold.

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  • Rinoa
    Rinoa Posts: 2,701 Forumite
    BertieUK wrote: »
    It makes people like myself thinking 'Who can we trust that have not gone down the same path as the ones that you mention' plus the many that have been caught and those who will be waiting for the knock on the door.

    It is so easy to pick up on the faults of others that are not in your party and at the end of the day does not help matters.

    Just to be clear I have no problem with Miliband owning a big posh house nor arranging his tax affairs as efficiently as the law allows. I do the same.

    My issue with Red Ed is that, just like so many 'socialists', he lambasts the tories for being millionaires whilst he himself is worth somewhere between £5M and 10M according to most reasonable estimates.
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  • pqrdef
    pqrdef Posts: 4,552 Forumite
    vivatifosi wrote: »
    For me, the real unknown of 2015 will be the strength of UKIP. As things stand, I think a very real possibility is that nearer the time we will be questioning whether a coalition of UKIP and the Conservatives will beat one of Labour and the Lib Dems.
    Well there is the question of how long Cameron can keep up his Eurojuggling act. He can't get by for ever by endlessly promising a referendum that he really doesn't want to have. Brussels will give him any opt-out he asks for to avoid forcing a referendum. But it's hard to see how he could do any sort of deal with UKIP without conceding the big R. Which would bust the Tories apart.
    "It will take, five, 10, 15 years to get back to where we need to be. But it's no longer the individual banks that are in the wrong, it's the banking industry as a whole." - Steven Cooper, head of personal and business banking at Barclays, talking to Martin Lewis
  • chucknorris
    chucknorris Posts: 10,795 Forumite
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    BertieUK wrote: »
    With the greatest of respect to you betting odds can, and does cloud ones imagination of the real problem, and on many occasions can mean nothing but figures that can give a false picture. Many times it is a way of being brain washed.

    Only in my opinion of course as I never had much faith in predictions.

    Whilst the betfair market might not be 100% reliable as an indicator of probability, I would certainly take it over a newspaper article any day of the week.
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  • BertieUK
    BertieUK Posts: 1,701 Forumite
    Rinoa wrote: »
    Just to be clear I have no problem with Miliband owning a big posh house nor arranging his tax affairs as efficiently as the law allows. I do the same.

    My issue with Red Ed is that, just like so many 'socialists', he lambasts the tories for being millionaires whilst he himself is worth somewhere between £5M and 10M according to most reasonable estimates.

    Yes I could not agree with you more, while he is in office and the publications of his real character come to light, he is only an embarrasment to his party.

    The average person in the street is so annoyed that those with riches have so many loopholes and ways of avoiding paying tax and can stay legal wheras they are hit left right and centre on too many occasions. I am not an envious person of those with riches I have to say, I can at least say that what I have I had to work dash hard for.
  • chewmylegoff
    chewmylegoff Posts: 11,469 Forumite
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    Yes, Ive seen 6/4 labour.

    PS Much as I'm loving this thread and all the guessing game fun, I'd better drag myself away and get some bits done. But I'll be back this avvie with my research (might have a flutter if some are silly enough to be offering Con win goodies! before they change it)

    But my definition would be ,as Labour has a 112 seat majority at the mo (virtual maj for EdM that is via polls) I'll go with seat majority.

    Seems like the PaddyPowers of this world are about to make a killing...

    PSS

    Ordinary man in street punters, JpePublic are bound to bet on a Con win.... theyve only got the BBC to go on and are being spun a line theyre taking. (Hurrah for the millionaire cabinet,arent the Tories great,super job etc etc) Those of us who watch these things and do our own research.... we..e...ll... let's just say... we might all get a smidgeon richer:T

    You were obviously a silly troll already, but claiming that the BBC is some kind of right wing propoganda wagon is pretty funny (although it will probably blow your cover).
  • lvader
    lvader Posts: 2,579 Forumite
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    pqrdef wrote: »
    Well there is the question of how long Cameron can keep up his Eurojuggling act. He can't get by for ever by endlessly promising a referendum that he really doesn't want to have. Brussels will give him any opt-out he asks for to avoid forcing a referendum. But it's hard to see how he could do any sort of deal with UKIP without conceding the big R. Which would bust the Tories apart.

    He doesn't need a pact with UKIP, if people really want a referendum on Europe only the Torys can give them that.
  • pqrdef
    pqrdef Posts: 4,552 Forumite
    Murdoch could be influential, if only by popping his clogs or losing interest and letting his papers off the reins.

    Rebekah "Lots Of Love" "top priority" Brooks tried to tell Leveson that the Sun's policy was determined by its readers. Hmm. If they went for the "toffs" angle, that would play well with the readers, but it was never going to happen while Dave and Becky were going to each other's cosy parties. It could now though.

    The old patrician Tory party died in 1964. Heath, Thatcher and Major had electable backgrounds. This lot have reminded us what it feels like to be openly sneered at and despised by the government. The papers could make them unelectable, if they chose to.
    "It will take, five, 10, 15 years to get back to where we need to be. But it's no longer the individual banks that are in the wrong, it's the banking industry as a whole." - Steven Cooper, head of personal and business banking at Barclays, talking to Martin Lewis
  • pqrdef
    pqrdef Posts: 4,552 Forumite
    You were obviously a silly troll already, but claiming that the BBC is some kind of right wing propoganda wagon is pretty funny (although it will probably blow your cover).
    Well I thought I was a bit of a leftie nowadays, I surprise myself sometimes, but you'd have to be a long way past me to detect right-wing bias at the Beeb.
    "It will take, five, 10, 15 years to get back to where we need to be. But it's no longer the individual banks that are in the wrong, it's the banking industry as a whole." - Steven Cooper, head of personal and business banking at Barclays, talking to Martin Lewis
  • pqrdef
    pqrdef Posts: 4,552 Forumite
    lvader wrote: »
    He doesn't need a pact with UKIP, if people really want a referendum on Europe only the Torys can give them that.
    It would cost them their traditional friends and financiers in the CBI and the City. In effect UKIP would be hijacking the Tory party, without even having to get on board.
    "It will take, five, 10, 15 years to get back to where we need to be. But it's no longer the individual banks that are in the wrong, it's the banking industry as a whole." - Steven Cooper, head of personal and business banking at Barclays, talking to Martin Lewis
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