Man Walks 11 Miles To Job Interview - Ed Miliband Offers Hope

seven-day-weekend

DecentLivingWage wrote: »

Thank you - you make my point beautifully - these vulnerable complex citizens need our care and compassion - ,but the Cons computers and 'decision makers' make no distinction and do not take into account their fragilty (as in the case of my relative) so....

Give Them Back Their Disability Living Allowances!

Ed Miliband is saying that under his watch these fragile citizens will be cared for and supported - thats a political point theyd love to hear - and I will make it for them on their behalf, and for my young relative!

None of the people I know who have committed suicide, or who self-harm, are on DLA, in fact most of them were/are on no Benefits at all.

AFAIK, no-one has taken DLA away, although I agree that some may lose out in the changeover to PIP.

Generali

seven-day-weekend wrote: »

None of the people I know who have committed suicide, or who self-harm, are on DLA, in fact most of them were/are on no Benefits at all.

AFAIK, no-one has taken DLA away, although I agree that some may lose out in the changeover to PIP.

I have known 2 people kill themselves: one was a middle class, middle income retiree the other was a very troubled young man with a pretty serious amphetamine habit.

To reduce suicide to a simple, single issue like a prank phone call or problems with benefits is ridiculous and completely misrepresents what is, as you say, a serious and complex problem.

alex21

PaulF81 wrote: »

Filthy communist. Get back in your socialist box.

Vile. Simply vile.

pleasedelete

My mums cousin who was in his 30s lost his job, split up from wife. This was the 1980s. He got job and if he coudnt cadge lift from workmate (shifts) walked 15 miles each way. My mum found out by accident and bought him push bike. He says getting that job changed his life and didn't see walking that far as a big issue if he meant he worked.

PaulF81

seven-day-weekend wrote: »

Absolutely agree. I too have known/know these people.

You could say its Darwinism.

Graham_Devon

DecentLivingWage wrote: »

Thank you - you make my point beautifully - these vulnerable complex citizens need our care and compassion - ,but the Cons computers and 'decision makers' make no distinction and do not take into account their fragilty (as in the case of my relative) so....

Give Them Back Their Disability Living Allowances!

Ed Miliband is saying that under his watch these fragile citizens will be cared for and supported - thats a political point theyd love to hear - and I will make it for them on their behalf, and for my young relative!

Are you CitK? The banned over and over again poster who simply campaigned for benefits to be given to everyone who merely asked for them without question?

The poster who did, and still does, spread outright lies on benefits discussions and boards, all based on a political agenda?

Jennifer_Jane

The only person of whom I know ALL* the details, who committed suicide was an ex hedge-fund manager whose wife wanted a divorce. He left a few million pounds.

So not on benefits.

Unless people can supply facts about the number of suicides (and not people feeling miserable because they will have to work like the rest of us in usually boring jobs), then I will assume that people on benefits are not committing suicide more than any other section of the community and for various, complex reasons.)

I know various people who have disabilities, and the only one who is worried and concerned (and moaning) is the one with the bad back with whom I used to work. She is aged about 55 and could be living off a Company pension - except she doesn't have one. Her choice, she had the money, she spent it.

Why should tax-payers' (including pensioners' taxed income) money continue to give her a nice life of holidays etc (she particularly enjoys Egypt) and an expensive sports car (bought before she went on disability, but still expensive to tax and run).

*"ALL" means I saw the suicide notes, etc.

pop_gun

CLAPTON wrote: »

you may behavour like that but most of us don't

It's called social conditioning and everyone "behaves" (thinks) like that.

Alias_Omega

Moby wrote: »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=GB&hl=en-GB&v=Xe1a1wHxTyo

:rotfl:

I've never seen that sketch, but i have now.

In years to come, i will tell the children & the grand-children about how i earned £35/£45 per week and they wont believe me. I'll be one of them old men who go on about random stuff.

I remember taking my first £35 cheque (the college paid via Cheque) into Natwest Bank to open an account. Maybe my first few steps on my own feet...

The other big step was when i found out that my parents had not paid my car insurance (a bit of fronting at age 20 - car insured in mums name etc) when i had been paying them for months...

Moby

Alias_Omega wrote: »

I've never seen that sketch, but i have now.

In years to come, i will tell the children & the grand-children about how i earned £35/£45 per week and they wont believe me. I'll be one of them old men who go on about random stuff.

I remember taking my first £35 cheque (the college paid via Cheque) into Natwest Bank to open an account. Maybe my first few steps on my own feet...

The other big step was when i found out that my parents had not paid my car insurance (a bit of fronting at age 20 - car insured in mums name etc) when i had been paying them for months...

Alias....that sketch does take things to an extreme but it is still very funny all those years later:)