Man Walks 11 Miles To Job Interview - Ed Miliband Offers Hope

Generali

ILW wrote: »

You do seem to do nothing but spout platitudes, but never come up with any suggestions for practical alternatives to that which you so dislike.

It's because (s)he is a Labour Party worker/volunteer that for some misguided reason has decided to proselytize to the dozen or so people on this board. Linking to a political leader's speech on you tube proves it if proof was needed.

It's just the same as that !!!!! Rochdale_Pioneers who also just wants to turn everything into a game of party politics. Stop feeding the troll is my advice.

Wookster

Generali wrote: »

It's because (s)he is a Labour Party worker/volunteer that for some misguided reason has decided to proselytize to the dozen or so people on this board. Linking to a political leader's speech on you tube proves it if proof was needed.

It's just the same as that !!!!! Rochdale_Pioneers who also just wants to turn everything into a game of party politics. Stop feeding the troll is my advice.

Nicely put. Troll is a good and generous word.

Moby

Wookster wrote: »

Nicely put. Troll is a good and generous word.

So all the baiting posts you put on here about Ed Balls etc are not trolling then?

Alias_Omega

Years ago, i was part of a YTS system which turned me into an apprentice electrician after leaving school at 16.

In 1996, i earned £35 per week, paying £20 to my parents.
In 1997, i earned £45 per week, still paying £20 to my parents.

I had to walk 8 miles each day. There was no choice in it, as the budget would not cover it. I learn't alot about the value of money as £15 would stretch very far.

Eventually a family friend took pity, and loaned me a pushbike...

At 17, i had a choice. Go on holiday with my parents abroad, or stay with my nan. If i stayed with my nan, my parents would buy me a 50cc motorbike/insure it for the year. Therefore i chose to stay in the UK..

Moby

Alias_Omega wrote: »

Years ago, i was part of a YTS system which turned me into an apprentice electrician after leaving school at 16.

In 1996, i earned £35 per week, paying £20 to my parents.
In 1997, i earned £45 per week, still paying £20 to my parents.

I had to walk 8 miles each day. There was no choice in it, as the budget would not cover it. I learn't alot about the value of money as £15 would stretch very far.

Eventually a family friend took pity, and loaned me a pushbike...

At 17, i had a choice. Go on holiday with my parents abroad, or stay with my nan. If i stayed with my nan, my parents would buy me a 50cc motorbike/insure it for the year. Therefore i chose to stay in the UK..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=GB&hl=en-GB&v=Xe1a1wHxTyo

:rotfl:

DecentLivingWage

Alias_Omega wrote: »

Years ago, i was part of a YTS system which turned me into an apprentice electrician after leaving school at 16.

In 1996, i earned £35 per week, paying £20 to my parents.
In 1997, i earned £45 per week, still paying £20 to my parents.

I had to walk 8 miles each day. There was no choice in it, as the budget would not cover it. I learn't alot about the value of money as £15 would stretch very far.

Eventually a family friend took pity, and loaned me a pushbike...

At 17, i had a choice. Go on holiday with my parents abroad, or stay with my nan. If i stayed with my nan, my parents would buy me a 50cc motorbike/insure it for the year. Therefore i chose to stay in the UK..

Brilliant story! A story of hope and reward if ever there was one! All most people want is a fair chance - a decent hope of competing fairly with others for jobs etc . Fairness is acceptable to all voters, also of course hopeful aspirational workers have confidence in their and the economy's future - and spend! So keeping others in work. (PS Millions spent less on Christmas according to BBC Business this morning.)

Generali

DecentLivingWage wrote: »

Brilliant story! A story of hope and reward if ever there was one! All most people want is a fair chance - a decent hope of competing fairly with others for jobs etc . Fairness is acceptable to all voters, also of course hopeful aspirational workers have confidence in their and the economy's future - and spend! So keeping others in work. (PS Millions spent less on Christmas according to BBC Business this morning.)

IIRC, Labour and the usual BBC/Guardian apologists for them condemned the YTS as a make work scheme designed solely to fiddle unemployment figures in the same way that they now decry current workfare and training schemes.

Subsidized, compulsory training schemes for the young and those whose skills have become outdated (the latter as measured by time on non-disability related benefits) are a very good idea IMO. The toughest thing about being young in a recession is that the work goes to older skilled and experienced workers and schemes like the YTS an YOPS that proceeded it are good ways to break the cycle.

DecentLivingWage

Generali wrote: »

IIRC, Labour and the usual BBC/Guardian apologists for them condemned the YTS as a make work scheme designed solely to fiddle unemployment figures in the same way that they now decry current workfare and training schemes.

Subsidized, compulsory training schemes for the young and those whose skills have become outdated (the latter as measured by time on non-disability related benefits) are a very good idea IMO. The toughest thing about being young in a recession is that the work goes to older skilled and experienced workers and schemes like the YTS an YOPS that proceeded it are good ways to break the cycle.

That is such a good point! But what about the Future Jobs Fund during the last government - in terms of my own son and youth unemployment, I thought that was a great idea!

seven-day-weekend

CLAPTON wrote: »

There article didn't actually say that did it?

Sadly I have known several people who have committed suicide and known several others who self harm. The reasons have been very complex and not reduced to a single event.

So I do find it unpleasant to trivialise people who truely self harm or are suicidal, simply to make some irrelevant political point.

Given the seriousness of the implied situation, the sarcasm is distastful too.

Absolutely agree. I too have known/know these people.

DecentLivingWage

Thank you - you make my point beautifully - these vulnerable complex citizens need our care and compassion - ,but the Cons computers and 'decision makers' make no distinction and do not take into account their fragilty (as in the case of my relative) so....

Give Them Back Their Disability Living Allowances!

Ed Miliband is saying that under his watch these fragile citizens will be cared for and supported - thats a political point theyd love to hear - and I will make it for them on their behalf, and for my young relative!