Benefits Cash Card

dacouch

WantToBeSE wrote: »

I imagine that the crime rate will go through the roof if this happens.
Alcoholics, druggies, gamblers, are addicts who will go to great lengths to get their 'fix'.
If they dont get the money for it (and rightly so-they shouldnt), they will resort to theft (more than they do already).

Surely the Gambling Addicts would be more likely to try and get a job rather than resort to crime

kururunfa

I'm fortunate enough to be self employed and turning a profit at the moment, but I hope that if this scheme were to be rolled out mainstream, then the cards would be accepted online by most of the major supermarkets.

I live in a rural area, and my main source of food is a local butcher with a small section of general goods (veg, pastries, cakes, tinned beans, etc). He doesn't accept cards, only cash. The nearest supermarket is a fair walk, and some of my neighbours really struggle with it (they're fit enough to hold down a job, but have dodgy hips/breathing problems, etc).

If those cards were to become the norm (many years from now, probably) would people have to make that trip to buy food? If you could order online it wouldn't be too bad - in fact I think it would be a big budgeting help that some honest claimants might appreciate.

BobQ

kingfisherblue wrote: »

Although I appreciate that there are some benefit scroungers, there are many who are on benefits through no fault of their own. .............................................

A very heartfelt explanation. But you do not have to feed this troll.

I do not know whether he is some kind of manager earning enough to start losing child benefit next year. Or a prat who watches Jerry Kyle and preaches what the Daily Mail says. Either way he has no understanding of what a difficult time some people have to cope with.

Suspect he is a one issue troll who has just signed on to wind people up.

imatt

BobQ wrote: »

A very heartfelt explanation. But you do not have to feed this troll.

I do not know whether he is some kind of manager earning enough to start losing child benefit next year. Or a prat who watches Jerry Kyle and preaches what the Daily Mail says. Either way he has no understanding of what a difficult time some people have to cope with.

Suspect he is a one issue troll who has just signed on to wind people up.

Got it in one! Was enjoying my virtual hot dog and popcorn reading that lot.

strangeotron

AP007 wrote: »

How will I pay for travel and bills etc with food cards?

How will I pay to print out CV's, claim, and applications forms (or indeed anything) at the Library? How will I pay late fees?

What social elements am I entitled to? Can I buy a pint with a friend down the pub? What about a soft drink? If I can buy orange juice from a supermarket, can i not buy an orange juice with a friend in a pub?

Am I allowed to buy takeaway meals, supermarket precooked or ready meals, not just mcdonalds? What if I want to buy from the local chippie?

How do I buy birthday or christmas presents for my kids, friends and family?

Am I allowed to go to the cinema?

Can I buy newspapers or magazines?

How do I pay for internet access?

What happens if there's a problem and the computer that swipes my card doesn't work?

How do I buy clothes? what clothes? What shops?

How do I shop online? Can I?

What if I need to make emergency payments? Pay for new lenses, a broken tv, a broken oven, a broken window?

Perhaps I should become a Tory MP like Maria Miller and her 90 grand home expenses claim?

strangeotron

Johnnytwostep wrote: »

Good idea, the tax payer shouldnt be funding fags and booze only the essentials.

Why not?

If it's ok for those in work to buy booze and fags why noone else? They are bad for anyone regardless.

What if your boss said he's cutting your salary in case you spend you rmoney on such unproductive products. Maybe you'd be less of a shirker in your job if you didn't spend time idling with a fag in your hand gossiping outside.

strangeotron

Johnnytwostep wrote: »

or they could get a job!!!

There aren't enough to go around.

Funny how people get more idle during a tory giovernment.

Johnnytwostep wrote: »

there are plenty of jobs out there if they want one, easier to sit at home and take in the easy money of benefits

There aren't plenty of jobs. You're not seriously so stupid as to believe that all the people out of work are lazy surely?

Johnnytwostep wrote: »

the daily mail is the only newspaper that tells the truth about benefits,

and everyone has heard of jeremy kyle, and the benefits recipients who appear on it

the daily mail panders to paranoid curtain twitchers.

dandelionclock30

The vast majority of people in receipt of benefit do not spend it on cigs and booze they spend it on living expenses.
For the uneducated in these matters bringing in a card/voucher system will not stop drug addicts/drinkers/gamblers on spending money on these things.
What happens is that people sell the vouchers/stuff on for about half price if they are lucky. People will flog the shopping anywhere, dodgy pubs etc or by knocking on doors.They the get the cash and then go to buy the drink/drugs etc.

strangeotron

Johnnytwostep wrote: »

I say all should go on mandatory work programmes to get any form of benefit, retrain if you cant get a job

people are on mandatory work programmes.
the scheme that actually curtails their chance of success.
retraining costs money, the thing you don't want to give people.

Johnnytwostep wrote: »

I have no idea as I have a job (well two infact), obtained after retraining

two jobs, so you are denying someone else the chance of work?

Johnnytwostep wrote: »

don't insult people who work in a shop, they have got a job and not resorted to claiming benefits

actually most are: supermarket wages are subsidised by tax credits whil making millions in profit while mandatory workfare forces people like you to pay benefits instead of wages.
Well done you for making things worse.

strangeotron

Johnnytwostep wrote: »

child benefit, which is being taken away next year.
I do look at those who have never worked, and those who do not want to work.

so you had kids you can't afford to keep and then moan at others doing the same? oh dear!

Johnnytwostep wrote: »

You really need to be milking the system for all its worth, milk it dry. get a bit of housing benefit, council tax benefit.

then why don't you? why look at other people you think, but don't know, are doing the same and take out your frustration on them? You are being played for a sucker by this government and the media.

Johnnytwostep wrote: »

all living in their mansions paid for by the tax payer, not even looking for a job...easy street

living in their mansions? what like the queen?
how many dole claimants do you know that live in mansions?